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Hi, There is NO information on the page mailing list page (https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel) on how to UNsubscribe.... Gavin King wrote: They are wrapped in UnmodifiableBlahBlah -----Original Message----- From: Steve Ebersole Sent: Tuesday, 27 September 2005 3:49 PM To: Max Andersen; Gavin King; Emmanuel Bernard Cc: Hibernate development Subject: RE: [Hibernate] sessionfactoryimpl.close() Why? You can call clear() on collections marked as final. Obviously you could not "null them out"... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Max Rydahl Andersen Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:44 AM To: Gavin King; Emmanuel Bernard Cc: Hibernate development Subject: Re: [Hibernate] sessionfactoryimpl.close() Hi, We tried to do this but it requires us to un-final stuff and that is not worth it. Instead I added a comment to sf.close() about the importance of actually not keeping a reference to the sf when it is not wanted anymore. /max I think it would be perfectly reasonable to clear the internal collections. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Max Rydahl Andersen Sent: Monday, 26 September 2005 3:20 PM To: Emmanuel Bernard Cc: Hibernate development Subject: Re: [Hibernate] sessionfactoryimpl.close() OTOH, this will consume some extra CPU time for nothing since the GC will do that job anyway. is sf.close() cpu critical ? Even with a clean up it shouldn't be bad, or ? /max Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: Hi guys, Any reason why we don't empty all the collections we are holding onto in the sessionfactory ? Are we just letting that be up to the garbage collector to handle or how ? :) It is not a memory leak as the garbage collector will get them when the user actually lets go of the sessionfactory (sf = null), but it could probably save us some forum argumenting since a profiler will list the sessionfactory as a leach even after sf.close() has been called. -- -- Max Rydahl Andersen callto://max.rydahl.andersen Hibernate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hibernate.org JBoss Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jboss.com/events/jbossworld JBoss World Barcelona 10-12 October ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php _______________________________________________ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel -- -- Max Rydahl Andersen callto://max.rydahl.andersen Hibernate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hibernate.org JBoss Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jboss.com/events/jbossworld JBoss World Barcelona 10-12 October ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php _______________________________________________ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php _______________________________________________ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tame your development challenges with Apache's Geronimo App Server. Download it for free - -and be entered to win a 42" plasma tv or your very own Sony(tm)PSP. Click here to play: http://sourceforge.net/geronimo.php _______________________________________________ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel