There maybe some setting we are just missing for test purposes.  For
example, I don't know about you, but on my Oracle setup I disable
recovery logging on the datafiles backing my test schema.  Without
disabling this option, it is painfully slow to run the testsuite against
Oracle; and obviously I don't care about recovery of my test data ;).

Wasn't one of the Derby guys interested in helping us with any issues we
encountered in Derby usage/adoption?

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Rydahl Andersen
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Subject: Re: [Hibernate] Re: [JBoss-dev] switch to derby in JB5?

Hi,

yes - there is alot more "weird" limitations, but Derby is not alone in

that
aspect (db2 comes to mind ;) But the turnaorund performance is  
disappointing.

/max



> AFAIR, the DDL generation fails on my test suite for this DB. They are

> too strict in some are. So unless they've relaxed some restriction,
it's  
> a nope for me.
>
> Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A small FYI crosspost here since both communities has talked about
it.
>>
>> Tonight I tried out Derby and followed the advise about running Derby
>> with the JVM wide system property derby.system.durability to the
value   
>> test.
>>
>> It certainly has an effect, but Derby is still sluggish with this  
>> setting
>> compared to all other dbs on my box (mysql, oracle and hsql) - maybe

>> the  dialect can be
>> tuned more; but as a development db HSQL still has a *much* better   
>> turnaround
>> time.
>>
>> /max
>>
>>> Sacha Labourey wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that Alexey had evaluated it (right?) and mentionned it was

>>>> nowhere
>>>> close from the original closed source product. Maybe I am
mistaken...
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of   
>>>>> Max Rydahl Andersen
>>>>> Sent: mardi, 20. septembre 2005 19:31
>>>>> To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>> Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] switch to derby in JB5?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Its been very slow compared to using hsqldb with hibernate test  
>>>>> suite  - at  least the two times i tried to use it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems like it is not very well optimized for DDL and queries  
>>>>> when   running in embedded mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> That might have changed, but it should at least be  
>>>>> tested/considered   before changing away from the
>>>>> test/developer friendly hsqld.
>>>>>
>>>>> When Derby were named Cloudscape it actually had more sql features

>>>>> and  were faster...but apparently
>>>>> they did their best to make it DB2 compliant ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> /max
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Its been asked in the past. Someone needs to validate that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it works as
>>>>>
>>>>>> the default db and update the service to start it. Alexey has a
>>>>>> prototype in varia:
>>>>>> org.jboss.jdbc.DerbyDatabase
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bill Burke
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:29 AM
>>>>>>> To: jboss-development@lists.sourceforge.net
>>>>>>> Subject: [JBoss-dev] switch to derby in JB5?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should we switch to derby for JB5?  Seems it is a fully
>>>>>>> featured DB unlike Hypersonic which supports XA and everything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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