Salam..di harap dapat lah sekira nya meluluskan posting ini untuk tatapan umum.Sebenarnya ini adalah satu message yang berlansung diantara saya dengan seorang rakan sekerja di US,tanpa dirancang.Semuanya bermula dengan satu email saya atas urusan kerja.Seperti kebiasaannya di bawah email saya,akan ada sepotong ayat quran seperti mana yang tertera di bawah yg di selit kan.Tidak disangka,ianya telah mengundang satu persoalan dan jawapan seperti yang tertera di bawah ini.
Ok lah apa yg ingin saya katakan disini adalah melalui perbualan kami dalam email ini,telah membukakan saya satu penipuan di website berkenaan isu orang-orang islam murtad,walau pun tak di nafikan yg ada diantara nya mungkin juga benar.Apa yg berlaku adalah,saya di minta untuk menjawab beberapa soalan di website yg di berikan kepada saya.Saya pun ke website tersebut untuk melihat apakah bentuk soalan yg di berikan,tanpa memasukan sebarang maklumat diri sendiri,sekadar menjawab beberapa soalan yg tertera dan selepas itu saya pun keluar tanpa ada sebarang syakwsangka dan tidak ada apa yg mencurigakan.Saya terus membalas email beliau.
Dan email berikutnya dari beliau amat memeranjatkan saya,sebuah tetimony atau kesaksian tentang diri saya yg tidak pernah saya serta kan sebarang maklumat diri.Terdapat juga dalam tetimony atau penyaksiaan saya itu dalam bahasa melayu.Siapakah dalang disebalik semuanya ini.?Semua maklumat tersebut ternyata di reka cipta dengan begitu baik serta menyakinkan pelayar website.Dan saya bernasib baik mengetahui perkara ini,dimana sekali gus membuka persoalan kenapa begitu ramai orang islam murtad di laman web sebegitu..Sila lah ke halaman tersebut dan saksi serta fikirkan lah sendiri.Mungkin ini satu dari beribu laman web sedemikian..berhati-hati lah..tidak perlulah di jadikan isu tetnang perkara ini,sekadar beringat dan sebarkan lah kepad mereka yg beragama islam agar terus memperbaik keyakinan supaya isu murtad ini tidak melemahkan semangat umat islam..ok lah sekian dahulu..
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Hi David..a very good day to you and family.Hope your day will be brighter with the light tiding from God.Well Im 39 yrs old live with my mum and no other close family.I've been working with XXXXX for about 22 yrs now.Life was not easy and when your re at one stage of life,you turned back and look,than you'll realised than,EVERYTHING HAPPENED FOR A REASONS.Well I just keep on living and hope will still be on the right path and faith,although as a human being I have a lot of weakness and sins.Never stopped asking God's forgiveness.
Ok talking on the TESTIMONY..hheheheh..frankly Im not mad at all.I do believe that whoever created the website having a good intention although every each of us have their own weakness.Some people might do a wrong thing or ways just to show the good thing behind it,and some could be the other way around.Just like the story of Robinhood,stealing from the riches for the need of the poor.No matter how he has the good heart,the fact is that
you're stealing from people and that definately made you a thef.
From my point of view related to the website,this will give others who know how the TESTIMONY appeared in the website a bad impressions.Just imagine,you were only asked to answer a few questions which you have to answer based on the question alone,but yet it end up with a long TESTIMONY with all those long information you never provided?What will you think of the website if for example you go to others religions website and happened to know this is how it's work up.I emphasized here..I m not mad ok...just like to shared with you what I thought of it.I happened to access some of the websites on why muslim people converted to other religion(for me it's not what religion you claimed youre,but more on how you practise your belief)The reason why I went to those website was to see what was the weakness in islam from the point of view of the person left islam.I want to understand whether all those reasons given are the same thought that make sense.And now by knowing how this
websites work on the TESTIMONY,Im doubt of those TESTIMONY that I've seen from those people who had claimed to be converted,although some of them might be true.Thanks to you and this lead back to our quote..EVERYTHING HAPPENED FOR A REASONS..hehehehehehe
For those belief Jesus is God himself,I do not have the right to convince them that's wrong.Everybody have their freedom and belief,and only God know best.But for us who claimed to be muslim,we belief that Jesus was a prophet in islam and just the same as other prophet like Muhammad,Moses,Abraham and so on..who are just a messenger from God to us.The creation of Jesus and Adam are the example that God give us to think of His power,that He can created anything He wants.Jesus was created without a father which was amazing or one of the miracle and God asked us to think of this miracle and compared it to the creation of Adam which also was created without mother and father,which far amazed.But for us,Jesus and Adam are both the miracle of God.Muslim loves all the prophet equally although some of muslim people who loves Muhammad too deep more than God himself,and this is just the same thing what happened to the follower of Jesus during his time.This end up with treating
Muhammad just like God without realising it,go againts what in Gods book such as Bible ,Quran and ext.Anyway,I've paste into an attachement on all those phrases in the quran about Jesus.Just take it as a knowledge and no harm Davide.Davidt worry with what people might give you as long as you have faith with your belief,nothing can change you unless God willing to.Ok take care of your self and hope you have a pleasant time of your jouney in life.Do keep in touch ok...
Serve God, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by yourside, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For God loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious;-
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I had a great weekend with the family thank you. I'm looking forward to next weekend because my father is coming to see us and stay the weekend. He lives about 5 hours away and I David't get the chance to see him that often. How long have you been working for XXXXXX? I've been with XXXXXXnow for 26 years and if God willing I'll retire in about 15 years with some 40 + years of service. Who would have known.
Hisham, thank you for looking at the web site. You didn't have to but you did and that alone means a lot to me. Could I ask you to read this testimony from a man of God as yourself. This testimony below I copied from this web site
http://answering-islam.org/Testimonies/hisham.htmlThis a very powerful testimony to witness and to see how God transformed someone's heart to see the truth and the light in which it was meant to be.
Your in my prayers.
God Bless my one and only friend from the other side of the world.
David
Hisham's Testimony - Now I am a Full Believer in Al-Masih 'Isa
My name is Hisham. I am a Malay male. I first began to know Christians when I started working in the early 1990s. A Christian friend of mine shared his testimony of how he prayed for his mother who was very sick. After he prayed he mother was healed.
Through this friend of mine I saw the Injil for the first time. I saw that in the Injil there was `Allah' and I asked my Muslim friends. They told me me that the Christian Holy Book has the word "Allah". But the Al-Kitab does not show who that "Allah" is. From that day I said to myself if that is the teachings of Christianity, I will keep away from it.
A Roman Catholic friend of mine took his Bible along with him when he went into the toilet. So I thought that this person does not respect his Holy Book. His actions showed that as though there is noting meaningful in it. I felt that way, because in Islam, the Al-Quran is respected.
After that I began to pay more attention to Islam. But inside me there were many questions: according to Islam, Al-Quran or the Word of God was holy because the book is believed to be from heaven, therefore anything that comes from heaven must be holy. If that is the understanding of Islam, therefore Isa-Al-Masih is also holy because according Hadis Anas bin Malik page 72: "Isa is truly the Spirit of God and His Word"
So I began to wonder, "Is Isa Al-Masih the Holy Spirit?". The Prophet Muhammad once asked Allah, he said : "O God. Who really is the Holy Spirit?" And God replied: "O Muhammad, to you is given only a little knowledge regarding the Holy Spirit. That is a matter which directly concerns Myself only."
Therefore, that verse shows that Muhammad does not know much about God's Spirit. But on the other hand, in Christianity there is much truth about the Spirit of God.
Since that day I began to study more about Tasawuf. I did this to find the truth. I wanted to get closer to Allah. In the mean time I also criticised the teachings of Christianity.
But one day, as I was looking at the Islamic calligraphy hanging on the walls of my house, I began to wonder: "Are all these true? What is the difference between Christianity and Islam?" That night as I was sleeping, I felt like as if some one was touching my hand and chest. I was aware of what was happening and I tried to free myself but I was held tightly. Then I woke up and asked: "What is this?" And I continued to sleep, but He came again. This time I could see His white robe but I could not see His face.
The next morning I went to see an ustaz (religious teacher) and told him that a man with a white robe visited me and held my hands and explained that he was Isa Al-Masih. The ustaz said that I was disturbed by satan and he prayed to cast away the jinn so that I would not be disturbed again. After that I went home.
After the isyak prayers that night, once again I heard a voice saying: "I am Isa Al-masih". After that I fell asleep on the prayer mat. Later on I felt as if someone woke me up, and I ran to my room and started reading the Al-Quran until I fell asleep again. That night He came again and held my hands. From his clothes I could see the wounds that were bleeding. When I asked why His chest was bleeding , suddenly I felt my chest began to feel warm! At that point I smelt the fragrance of rose flowers. Then I woke up.
On the third night, He came again to me and He said: "I am the way out for you". After that experience, I contacted a Church and asked them regarding what I experienced. They told me what I had experienced could be either from satan or even from God Himself. Then I telephoned another church and they advised me to get baptised. Later I called another church, they told me to wait for a week. Finally a church leader came and met with me. When I prayed with him I felt the touch of God Almighty. I began to believe in Isa Al-Masih and I believed that He is the Spirit of Allah and also Kalimat-ullah as mentioned in Surah Al-Anbiyaa' v. 91:
"And the Virgin Mary, (God) breathed into her Our Spirit and made her AND HER SON (Jesus) a SIGN for all peoples.."
Also, from surah an-Imram v.45 :
"Remember when the angels said: O Mary! Lo! Allah hath given thee glad tidings of a word from Him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, Son of Mary, ILLUSTRIOUS in the World and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near to Allah..."
After I believed in Isa Al-Masih, every time I prayed, I smelled the fragrance of roses. He has also helped solved many of my problems. I saw His power. After I decided to follow Him, my life changed. Previously I was a very hot-tempered person but now I am a much more patient man. Before this I was a chain smoker but now I have been set free from the addiction to cigarettes. Praise be to God!
Believing in Isa Al-Masih brings a assurance of salvation. This is proven in the Al-Quran Surah Az-Zukhruf 61 which states: "hazaa syiraa-tol mustaqiim", which means; "Follow Me, this is the straight path". Have you met this Straight Path yet ?
Hisham's testimony is indeed very interesting. Why did Hisham suddenly experience such things? From his testimony we can tell that Hisham is a person who desires to be close with Allah. As promised by Allah in the Torah, Deuteronomy 4:29 ".. You will find him if you look for him with all of your heart and with all of your soul."
The desires of Hisham were met when Isa Al-Masih or Jesus Christ appeared to him. Who actually is Isa Al-Masih who could fulfil Hisham's deepest needs and answer his deepest questions?
In the Al-Quran surah An-Nisa' 171, states that Isa Al-Masih is 'kalimatullah' or the Word of God. This is one of His fundamental characteristics. God cannot be separated from His essential characteristics. In other words, the Word of God is essentially Allah Himself. This means that Isa Al-Masih is God Himself because as the Word of God, He cannot be separated from Allah. Furthermore it is also mentioned in the Al-Quran, that 'Isa will come to this world to judge mankind. Hadith Sahih Muslim also says: ' "Rasullulah mentioned :
"Wallahi! Layanzilan nabnu Maryam Hakaman a'dila"', which means :
"By the Lord! For sure there will return (come back) Jesus, Son of Mary to be the righteous Judge (of mankind)"
Why is it 'Isa son of Maryam ie.Jesus, the Son of Mary, who returns as the judge at the end the World? Why not prophet Muhammad himself becomes the judge, as this era is supposedly the 'era of prophet Muhammad's followers' and not Jesus' a.s. And what is the position of Isa-Al-Masih to the extent that He will return as the Righteous Judge of the whole world? Just consider: what is so special about Isa Al-Masih compared with other prophets so much so that ONLY He is given such great authority? Anyway, only God can judge the world. If you were to really consider this carefully, this quite obviously reveals who Isa Al-Masih really is.
You too may yearn to be closer to Allah. Believe in Isa Al-Masih today and allow Him to take care of your desire. Isa Al-Masih promises to answer all your yearnings when you come to Him, follow His commands and accept His teachings. Come to him now!
More Testimonies
Answering Islam Home Page
May God bless and honour your noble quest! Amin.
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Hi David..hope u have a great weekend over there with family and kids.I've seen the website as per your request and i definately do not have any objection of the intention on the website.It's very good and that is the real thing to do as a servant of god.God is the first choices among other thing in our life.He cant be 2nd.
From my point of view,we're just human being where God him self created us and give us all the thing in life in our journey is just to test our faith towards him.Whether something good or something bad..they re all to test our faith towards him.He know all the strong point and all the weaknesess in us.God also know how hard we've tried to be the best servant to him,to follow the right path and follow of all his rules.If however we failed in one way or another,it's doesnt mean it's the end to us.God is the most merciful and willing to give us forgiveness for the mistakes that we did,if only we regreted and asking his forgiveness sincerely and try hard not to repeat it again.Below are some of the phrases in the quran related to test and there more which to many to paste here.
018.007 Lo! We have placed all that is on the earth as an ornament thereof that We may try them: which of them is best in conduct.
021.035 Every soul must taste of death, and We try you with evil and with good, for ordeal. And unto Us ye will be returned.
089.015 As for man, whenever his Lord trieth him by honouring him, and is gracious unto him, he saith: My Lord honoureth me.
089.016 But whenever He trieth him by straitening his means of life, he saith: My Lord despiseth me.
020.131 And strain not thine eyes toward that which We cause some wedded pairs among them to enjoy, the flower of the life of the world, that We may try them
thereby. The provision of thy Lord is better and more lasting.
003.014 Beautified for mankind is love of the joys (that come) from women and offspring; and stored-up heaps of gold and silver, and horses branded (with their mark), and cattle and land. That is comfort of the life of the world. God! With Him is a more excellent abode.
003.015 Say: Shall I inform you of something better than that ? For those who keep from evil, with their Lord, are Gardens underneath which rivers flow wherein they
will abide, and pure companions, and contentment from God. God is Seer of His bondmen,
We are not prfect and will do mistake from time to time,whether within our own awareness or beyond.Without any mistake we will never learned.Experience is important in life,that is the way that god taught us.Whenever we did a mistake againts god will,turn back to him,with the examples which god had given us:
002.036 But Satan caused them to deflect therefrom and expelled them from the (happy) state in which they were; and We said: Fall down, one of you a foe unto the other! There shall be for you on earth a habitation and provision for a time
002.037 Then Adam received from his Lord words (of revelation), and He relented toward him. Lo! He is the relenting, the Merciful
004.026 God would explain to you and guide you by the examples of those who were before you, and would turn to you in mercy. God is Knower, Wise.
004.027 And God would turn to you in mercy; but those who follow vain desires would have you go tremendously astray.
004.028 God would make the burden light for you, for man was created weak.
005.039 But whoso repenteth after his wrongdoing and amendeth, lo! God will relent toward him. Lo! God is Forgiving, Merciful.
005.040 Knowest thou not that unto God belongeth the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth ? He punisheth whom He will, and forgiveth whom He will. God is Able to do all things.
007.153 But those who do ill-deeds and afterward repent and believe - lo! for them, afterward, God is Forgiving, Merciful.
009.102 And (there are) others who have acknowledged their faults. They mixed a righteous action with another that was bad. It may be that God will relent toward them. Lo! God is Forgiving, Merciful.
016.119 Then lo! thy Lord - for those who do evil in ignorance and afterward repent and amend - lo! (for them) thy Lord is afterward indeed Forgiving, Merciful.
020.082 And lo! verily I am Forgiving toward him who repenteth and believeth and doeth good, and afterward walketh aright.
042.025 And He it is Who accepteth repentance from His bondmen, and parDavideth the evil deeds, and knoweth what ye do,
042.013 He hath ordained for you that religion which He commended unto Noah, and that which We inspire in thee (Muhammad), and that which We commended unto Abraham and Moses and Jesus, saying: Establish the religion, and be not divided therein. Dreadful for the idolaters is that unto which thou callest them. God chooseth for Himself whom He will, and guideth unto Himself him who turneth (toward Him).
042.014 And they were not divided until after the knowledge came unto them, through rivalry among themselves; and had it not been for a Word that had already gone forth from thy Lord for an appointed term, it surely had been judged between them. And those who were made to inherit the Scripture after them are verily in hopeless doubt concerning it.
I really like your statement on "EVRYTHING HAPPENED FOR A REASONS"I 100% believed this and always said to
friends in the office whenever good or bad things happened to us,there must be a reason behind it..only god know what and we will however know the reasons sometimes later.
Sorry if I bored you,this is just some knowledge discussion.Ok than take care and all the best to you.Hope to hear from you ocasionally.
Serve God, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by yourside, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For God loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious;-
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Thank you for sharing your belief and answering my question. By now you've enjoyed your weekend and I'm still enjoying mine. Without trying to get into a long debate over religion could I ask you to take a look at this web site with an open mind and follow along with the questions as you answer these with a YES or NO by clicking on the buttons and that's it.
www.wayofthemaster.com click on the High Speed button and follow along.
If you have speakers on your PC you could listen to some of it but if not it's all written for you to read. It's all very short reading and I'm only asking from one employee to another, one human to another who David't even know each other but by work related emails and here we are. I believe there's a reason for everything in this life and the God of creation has put you and me in the spot light to really take a deeper look into what we believe.
Thank you and I look forward to hearing back from you in regards to your thoughts from this message.
Best Regards, David
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Hi David,
A very good day to you.It's my pleasure to help you in getting the material,although it's a bit in delayed due to some internal problem.Anyway,glad that you're asking me about the footnote.I'am a muslim or islam (ISLAM mean surendder youselve to GOD)No matter what religious you are,all of us do believed there's only one God,although we might call him in a different name of language.
The verses is actualy from the quran(the muslim bible)I just quote it so that somehow the message could be just a good practice to everybody despite what your religion or belief you're,it's asking you to do something good to human being.Furthermore,my intention is for other friend who non muslim to see the real teaching of islam compared to those people known as islam in this world but had been doing all the wrong things such as Sept 11 inseden,bombing issue for instance,which definately not the teaching in islam or the quran.Too many muslim or islamic people had been too far from the real teching of islam.Im very opened minded and totally into quran.And by reading it,I can see all the wrong thing had been Davide by those called themselve as islam.
Sorry if this do not fit you in one way or another.Davidt bother from where the qoute comes from...just look into what it's trying to says.My intention is good.Hope this answer your question.Again,THANKS for asking.....take care
Serve God, and join not any partners with Him; and do good- to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, those in need, neighbours who are near, neighbours who are strangers, the companion by yourside, the wayfarer (ye meet), and what your right hands possess: For God loveth not the arrogant, the vainglorious;-
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Hi Hisham,
First, thank you for helping me get this shipment out. Second, your message below about serving God, what does this mean to you and where did you find this, bible?, books?, ect?. You David't usually see people put God in emails and especially work related material.
Just curious, that's all.
Best Regards, David Butler
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Hi David,
fyi..pls find the DHL tracking # as per below.Thanks
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