Maaf saya tak berapa faham English language kat sini.Ada tak yg dalam bahasa melayu?
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Abd Mutalib Ibrahim Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Bismillah [hidayahnet] Christian leaders apologise toMuslim leaders for the war in Iraq. I beg your pardon sir, I say all these writings about bishops suggest apology for war are pure garbage meant for the garbage bin. First of all the west are made up of 3 mains groups as far as the Ummah is concern. These 3 groups make up of the military, missionary and diplomats/politicians/administrators. Any gain made by one group against the Ummah will most likely benefit the other 2 groups. For example, if the military manages to overcome and ravage a Muslim country, the administrators will come in to reconstruct the infrastructures hard and soft to their advantages. When the population subdued, the missionary will come in to offer so called comfort and aids while at the same time propagate Christianity. In other words, in the beginning, they would physically destroy of the Ummah, then they will rebuild the population according to their mould (with destruction of Islam in mind), using available resources in the Muslim lands. This process is repeated over the centuries in Muslim land and is still repeated today. The only difference probably is how the destruction is being carried out. In the Malaysian context, it is done in the name of free and open society. The target is Muslim youth. The baits used are entertainment of all kinds, pornographic materials, alternative lifestyles, provisions of role-models frequently from the show-biz. The medium used are TV, printed materials, concerts, computers and other telecommunication gadgets. The unavoidable objective is to reduce the Muslims youth, frequently young Malays into subservient consumers of commercial products with no inclination whatsoever to dictate their own destiny, i.e. the lost of desire to carry out jihad. Traces of Islamic and Malays roots are constantly being uprooted so that in the end they will loose their souls bit by bit until they will no longer know who they are . With the onslaught of foreign cultures, social diseases will creep in because our culture is incompatible and defenseless against those foreign destructive cultures. And now we have bohsia, bohjan, mat rempit, incest, group sex, suicidal tendencies, liberal Islams, etc. Should these social diseases reach a certain threshold, i.e, point of no return, the missionary will come in to propagate Christianity among Muslims youth under the pretext of social or charity works. Educational aids would be give should there is a necessity for it. Above all, these proselytisation works will be carried out in a way that is incomprehensible to ordinary adult Muslim. The reason is that ordinary Muslims in Malaysia by then are no longer capable of reasoning as they have lost sensitivity towards their own religion. These are only hypothetical scenarios I am painting. I hope I am wrong. What should be done is that concerted effort being taken by Muslims (individuals, parents, teachers, government) at all level to arrest the problem. In the meantime, I only hope that the Muslims should be more sensitive towards their surroundings. >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/09/2005 07:03:03 >>> Bishops suggest apology for war The bishops suggested the apology would be a public act Church of England bishops have suggested Christian leaders apologise to Muslim leaders for the war in Iraq. A report from a working group of bishops says the war was one of a "long litany of errors" relating to Iraq. As the government is unlikely to offer an apology, a meeting of religious leaders would provide a "public act of institutional repentance", it said. It urges a "truth and reconciliation" meeting, but acknowledges that arranging it could be difficult. The report, entitled Countering Terrorism: Power, Violence and Democracy Post 9/11, was written by a working group of the Church of England's House of Bishops. It suggests the meeting would be an opportunity to apologise for the way the West has contributed to the situation in Iraq, including the war. Collusion The Church of England has criticised the war, saying it was not a "just war". But a dilemma now exists for those within the Church - to pull out of Iraq without a stable democracy in place would be irresponsible, but to stay suggests collusion with a "gravely mistaken" war, the bishops said. Leaving Iraq without stability would be irresponsible, the Church said But if collusion was a necessary evil, the report says, there needs to be a degree of public recognition of the West's responsibility for the present situation. "It might be possible for there to be a public gathering...at which Christian leaders meet with religious leaders of other, mainly Muslim, traditions, on the basis of truth and reconciliation, at which there would be a public recognition of at least some of the factors mentioned [in the report]." US reasons The report said errors in the West's handling of Iraq included support of Saddam Hussein over many years as a strategic ally against Iran, a willingness to sell him weapons and the suffering caused to the Iraqi people by sanctions. It also says the war appeared to be "as much for reasons of American national interest as it was for the well-being of the Iraqi people". The report said religious institutions had apologised for past injustices, including the Vatican's remorse over Christians' responsibility for the persecution of Jews. 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