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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Assalamualaikum,
>
> Saya disini menyertakan cabaran seorang beragama
> Hindu
> untuk berdebat dengan ulamak Muslim/Islam mengenai
> kesahihan Agama Islam yang dituduhnya meniru adat
> penyembahan Hindu. Sehingga kini tiada netters dalam
> forum Sangkancil yang berani menyahut cabaran
> beliau.
> Diharap ada dikalangan foumners hidayahnet yang
> mampu
> menerima cabaran debat beliau tersebut.
>
> Wassalam
>
> Art
>
>
>
> Quoran >> Muslims challenging the idol worship of
> Hinduism
> Vanakkam GNH,
>
> So far couple of guys approached but not sure
> whether
> they are mean
> in accepting the challenge. They seemed to talk but
> no
> action until now.
> Never mind give them time. Let them consult the
> bomohs
> (witch doctor)
> and get some talisman or charm things for their
> protection before the
> event. It will be a good chance for them to learn
> the
> truth whether the
> demons protection can help them against idol of
> Hindu
> God / Goddess.
>
> If no one come forward for the challenge then we are
> the winners. What
> ever in the quoran verses considered are false and
> contain full of lies.
> This is the only way in practical challenge they
> (muslim) can show the
> world that theirs is the true way. I hope they never
> miss this opportunity.
> This matter was going on for last 1400 years. In
> this
> century one had to
> make decision either to stop accusing or stop
> worshipping. I want this
> challenging event should be held with large public
> knowledge and not
> close door.
>
> BTW, after 30th (full dark moon), I am starting 100
> days meditation
> prayer and I don't have much time to reply most
> messages. During this
> period I need you favour. I want you to forward my
> challenging
> messages to hardcore muslim countries media / press
> /
> religious authorities
> departments, etc. I had attached some condition for
> the participant.
>
> Don't worry about snipers and suicide bombers. If
> they
> tried they are
> admitting themselves as losers.
>
> Best regards,
> Ambrose.
>
> Some term and condition:
> Date and time will be fixed after 12 international
> participants registered
> with me. Before this you have to do as below:
>
> 1. Get a permission letter from your country top
> Muslim religious bodies
> saying that you are representing their country. I
> must get their
> endorsement first before you meet any press and
> media in your
> country.
> 2. Then you have to send your particulars plus the
> endorsement letter to
> my lawyer so he can apply police permit and make
> this event official
> and legal.
> 3. You have to prepare a list of every verses from
> Quoran which condemn
> idol worshippers. Also the verses branded as
> outlaw
> (kafir, etc) only for
> the idol worshippers. What are the punishments
> for
> the branded outlaws.
> (You can send the list to the groups).
> 4. After receiving confirm letter from my lawyer of
> your participation
> confirmation, either my agent or yourself will
> arrange a press and media
> confrence in your country.
> 5. In the confrence you had to provide the list you
> had prepared as in claus
> (3) to the journalist.
> 6. All the cost of the participation born by you or
> sponsored by your country
> Muslim religious body.
>
>
> gnh wrote:
>
> > Ambrose Keep us informed of this
> Challenge............... but I doubt they dare face
> you in OPEN challenge .... But be careful of the
> snipers and suicide bombers though ~
> >
>
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> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:Ambrose
> > >
> > Dear All (Vanakkam),
> >
> > My name is Mr. Ambrose, fifty-three years of
> age, and a Malaysian Tamil (Indian). I was raised in
> a
> fanatic Christian family. I started to learn about
> religion in my adulthood and discovered that
> religion
> represented moral authority to the followers. Only
> the
> Hindu religion does not enforce any compulsion over
> the individual believers.
> >
> > In Hinduism, there are hundreds of Gods /
> Goddesses and anyone can choose whom they wanted to
> worship, freely and without any external
> interference.
> This had made me to concentrate on Hinduism. I
> discovered many things by communicating directly
> with
> Gods/Goddesses, which many who were born Hindus
> still
> do not realize. Everyone wishes for miracles and
> inner
> spiritual power in his / her life. I received
> these
> miracles and spiritual power from the Lord
> Muniswarer.
> He appeared to me midnight at a jungle temple and
> taught me basic Hindu principles. From that night
> onwards I started to think like a Hindu. Openly
> praying to Hindu Gods and Goddesses, I still retain
> my
> Christian name Ambrose. I have shared my experiences
> with internet forum groups. I am proud to say that I
> have never learnt Hinduism from books or scriptures
> or
> any human gurus. Lord Muniswarer and his allied
> Gods/Goddesses taught all the understanding direct
> to
> me.
> >
> > After reading my experiences, many book-soaked
> Hindus doubt me. Even some Hindus advise me to
> change
> my name to a Hindu-sounding one before I start to
> preach. Actually I do no preach. I prayed to the
> Gods
> over this matter of doubtful Hindus, and the Gods
> asked me not to worry. These Hindus were praying and
> offering their whole life to God/Goddess. The Gods
> never appeared to them, but communicated via another
> human through a trance. The Gods told me that these
> so-called Hindus were jealous of me because a
> Christian guy like me has been able to see the Hindu
> Gods. The Gods told me not to change my name but to
> continue to tell the truth. They told me, "The one
> who
> needs to, must approach us and ask. We know to whom
> we
> should offer our blessings, even though they pray to
> us day and night.
> >
> > I wrote to the sangkancil and akandabaratham
> forum group about the truth of Hinduism. Some
> Muslims
> got upset. They threatened me with lynching,
> blackmail, and reporting to the infamous Malaysian
> Police. First, read what I had written - " All must
> know that Hindu ritual practice were done in the
> earliest stages. Only Islam came later by tailoring
> some facts. For example, the Hindus will go round a
>
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