David, see ## inline.

On 4/9/09 6:10 PM, "David Kuehr-McLaren" <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Paul, 
> 
> Thanks.  That makes it more clear.  But now I am confused by the relationship
> of HOWL to IdAS.  IdAS only returns Entities.
> 
> ## This is all a bit hard to understand. In IdAS things are called Entities.
> In RDF things are called resources. The difference is that in RDF things are
> identified by HTTP URI identifiers (only), whereas in IdAS (well, the Context
> Data Model) things are identified by UDIs (more abstract identifiers). As a
> result we can only approximate Entities using RDF. The fundamentals are
> different. 
> 
> ##  However there is a lot of utility in the existing RDF/OWL tools. So in
> order to make it easier to use the off the shelf RDF/OWL tools (such as the
> SWOOP and Protégé that you mentioned), in Higgins 1.1 we split higgins.owl
> into higgins.owl (which describes new OWL classes like Agent, Group, etc.) and
> cdm.owl that describes the ³meta² model of Entities interconnected with UDIs.
> 
> ## The latter, cdm.owl is really only for humans to look at. It uses RDF to
> describe the more abstract foundation (Entities and UDIs) in a shallow way
> even though RDF-based tools can¹t more deeply operationalize the definitions.
> 
> In order to build an ontology for my context provider that uses the HOWL
> objects, it appears I will need to add the Agent object (as well as other
> objects types) to my own exstension of the CDM, in order to treat the Agent
> objects as Entities.  Is that the correct approach for building the schema for
> a context provider?
> 
> ## No. As mentioned above cdm.owl should not be imported into your ontology or
> used at all when building ontologies. Just import higgins.owl and define your
> own subclasses and properties. Let¹s say that you define a subclass, Foo, of
> the Agent class in higgins.owl. If you go ahead and implement your ontology in
> an IdAS Context Provider, this CP may well return an instance of Foo<-- this
> Foo instance would be a java class that implements the IEntity interface [1].
> But unlike in Higgins 1.0 your Foo class (in your ontology) is NOT a subclass
> of a class named ³Entity².
> 
> ## HTH, Paul
> 
> [1] 
> http://download.eclipse.org/technology/higgins/downloads/idas.api/builds/S-S20
> 090325-200903251303/javadoc/org/eclipse/higgins/idas/api/IEntity.html
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> David 
> 
> David Kuehr-McLaren
> Tivoli Security
> 919.224.1960 
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Trevithick <[email protected]>
> Sent by: [email protected] 04/09/2009 05:25 PM
> Please respond to
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> Re: [higgins-dev] Which ontology to reference
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> That was confusing indeed! I have replaced the word ³Entity² in the second
> sentence with the word ³Agent.²
> 
> [All classes (including Agent) and instances thereof in higgins.owl 1.1 are
> types of Higgins Entities. But when modeling in OWL we don¹t directly use
> Entity directly. ]
> 
> --Paul
> 
> On 4/9/09 3:48 PM, "David Kuehr-McLaren" <[email protected]
> <[email protected]> > wrote:
> 
> 
> I am having trouble understanding the instructions to Context Provider authors
> regarding extending the higgins ontology as per the Context Data Model 1.1
> page.  (I apologize in advance, if this is a basic OWL question or is
> documented elsewhere on the wiki)
> 
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Context_Data_Model_1.1#Building_on_higgins.owl_1.1
> <http://wiki.eclipse.org/Context_Data_Model_1.1#Building_on_higgins.owl_1.1>
> 
> In the section "Building on higgins.owl 1.1 " it states
> 
> " Developers must create specialized ontologies based on HOWL that describe
> specific concrete domains.For example, if a developer wanted to describe a CRM
> database, she would create an OWL ontology that would describe the data
> objects in the CRM database. This CRM database is called a Context in Higgins.
> If, for example, the database contained records about customers and those
> customers had full-names and email addresses, then the developer would define
> "Customer" as a sub-class of Entity and "full-name" and "email" as kinds of
> Attributes." 
> 
> The first sentence implies the developer should be using the "upper" ontology
> higgins1.1 owl.  But the last sentence tells the developer to reference the
> CDM and subclass Entity.  Intuitively, I think i would want to subclass Person
> from HOWL for a Customer object.  But Agent does not seem to subclass Entity.
> 
> When I use OWL modeling tools like SWOOP or Protoge, I can not figure out how
> to subclass Agent as an Entity.
> 
> Thanks for any guidance,
> 
> 
> David 
> 
> David Kuehr-McLaren
> Tivoli Security
> Identity Integration Architecture
> 919.224.1960 
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