> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Andrew Savory
> Sent: woensdag 14 november 2007 15:58
> To: Hippo CMS development public mailinglist
> Subject: Re: [HippoCMS-dev] A bunch of feedback
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 11/14/07, Bartosz Oudekerk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Andrew Savory wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On 11/14/07, Jeroen Reijn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Try to start it the other way around and see what happens:
> > >>
> > >> First the CMS and then start up the repository.
> > >
> > >
> > > That seems to work fine. I automatically start the 
> repository first, 
> > > so
> > I
> > > never spotted it :-(
> > >
> > > Seems this is a problem though, since the CMS and repo 
> are supposed 
> > > to
> > be
> > > started and stopped independently...
> >
> > Not really, both sites and repositories won't initialise 
> properly if 
> > the repository is not running, although they will survive a 
> repository 
> > being restarted or otherwise temporarily unavailable after 
> they've started.
> >
> > Just as you need to have a database running before you start the 
> > repository, you need to have the repository running before 
> you start a 
> > hippo-cocoon application.
> >
> > IMHO this is normal (expectable) behaviour.....
> 
> 
> No, it's not ;-)
> 
> It makes no sense that the CMS only works if it's started 
> _BEFORE_ the repository ... which provides data necessary for 
> it to operate correctly.
> This is a new bug (possibly a Mac OS X problem), since it's 
> never happened this way before ...
> 
 
Strange. I had everything running in Leopard (with JDK 1.5) both from
the binary distributions and by building the latest trunks. I started
the repository first and then the CMS. No extensions or whatsoever. I
only got the wrapper warning about not being able to access the wrapper
file. I haven't tried it with Java4 on my Leopard. 

Jasha
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