Hi,

I am resending Tom's comments to the list since he seems to have failed
to cc: the list on his email below. Thanks for your comments, Tom!

Cheers,

Gonzalo

On 12/02/2016 11:54 PM, Tom Henderson wrote:
> On 01/29/2016 02:32 PM, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to start a WGLC on the following draft. This WGLC will end
>> on February 12th:
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal/
>>
>> Please, send your comments to this list. 
> 
> Gonzalo and all,
> 
> My understanding is that the WG reached consensus several years ago that the 
> standards-track NAT traversal variant would be the native NAT traversal and 
> not the RFC5770-based ICE/STUN/TURN version.
> 
> I reviewed the above draft and noticed that it still contains normative 
> references to RFC5770 (pointers to material found only in RFC5770) 
> throughout, and contains RFC5770 as a normative reference in Section 8.1.  It 
> seems to me that the WG ought to produce a specification that can stand alone 
> from RFC5770, because as it stands now, it seems to me that someone 
> implementing it would need to consult both drafts and may be uncertain about 
> what is still applicable from RFC5770.  For example, is the UDP-ENCAPSULATION 
> mode still valid?
> 
> ICE (RFC 5245) is also still listed as normative but it seems to me that it 
> should also be informative in this draft.
> 
> I think it would be appropriate to just reference 5770 in the Introduction, 
> stating that this specification replaces RFC 5770 with a different mechanism 
> than ICE/STUN/TURN, and then try to avoid referencing 5770 from then on. 
> 
> - Tom

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