Hi,
On 05/06/2018 10:23 PM, Christer Holmberg wrote:
Hi,
The question is whether this document should re-define the HIP variations to
ICE that RFC 5770 already does.
That may be your question, but it's not my question. My question is that I'm
not sure this document is
sufficiently clear and unambigious to implement, given its current structure.
Sure, the may be editorial work to do, but I still think it is important to clarify
whether the reader of this document is expected to be familiar with RFC 5770, or whether
this document is supposed to be an "ICE variant" on its own.
we wanted to keep the same document structure as RFC5770 because the
developers were already familiar with it (and has two interoperable
implementations). While we tried to duplicate some RFC5770 material to
make the specification a bit more standalone, the document is still
aimed for people who developed RFC5770.
As you noted, the document is missing the exact section references
because the ICE spec has been a moving target but I guess the references
would safe to be fixed now.
Thanks Eric for the insightful technical comments. I'll try to get you
answers as soon as possible.
Regards,
Christer
On 6 May 2018, at 22.01, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Christer Holmberg
<christer.holmb...@ericsson.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am very familiar with ICE and yet I found this document extremely hard to
follow. The problem is that it cherry-picks pieces
of ICE and I'm just not sure that it's a complete specification when put all
together. I have noted a number of places where I
actually am not sure how to implement something, and fixing those will resolve
this DISCUSS, but IMO you really should totally
rewrite this document either (a) as a variant of ICE or (b) as an entirely new
document not with a pile of new text and then
references out to ICE sections.
I haven't been involved in the work on this draft, so I may be wrong, but I did review
the document and my understanding is that RFC 5770 is the "variant of ICE", and
this document is a modification/extension to RFC 5770.
This document is a variant of ICE in the sense that it is ICE-like and
explicitly depends on quite a bit of ICE.
-Ekr
Regards,
Christer
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