----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Pin <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:22
Subject: Re: Stains for Macrophages for Laser Capture Microdissection purpose
To: Martin Sandig <[email protected]>, John Kiernan 
<[email protected]>, Paul Walton <[email protected]>


> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks for including me in these discussions.  I am no expert on macrophage 
> histology but I know something about laser capture microdissection.  The key 
> to this method for RNA isolation is not so much in the timing but rather in 
> the solutions complete lack of RNAse.  We have worked with pancreatic tissue 
> and been able to dissect of cells for RNA isolation.  Likely one approach 
> would be to do H&E for identification.  Before you went to the trouble of 
> doing LCM, you could take some unimportant tissue, scrape the tissue off the 
> slide after fixation and then isolate RNA just to verify the integrity of the 
> RNA following staining.
> 
> The other thing that you can do is fix the slides as if you are doing in situ 
> hybridization before you do any histology.
> 
> I know this isn’t that helpful but from my experience it is not the time but 
> rather the quality of the solutions that makes all the difference.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On 1/28/10 9:01 AM, "Martin Sandig" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 

> Hi:
> I do not do laser capture at all.
> For identification purposes, perhaps it would be possible to load the 
> macrophages with an injected dye (they eat that stuff depending on the tissue 
> under investigation) and then capture them.  In atherosclerotic lesions they 
> are loaded with lipids (foam cells) and perhaps with an excellent microscope 
> they may be visible before capture.
> Chris Pin ([email protected]) may have some experience with laser micro-dissection.
> Cheers,
> Martin
>  
>  
> Martin Sandig, PhD
> Associate Professor
> Associate Chair, Undergraduate Affairs
> Department of Anatomy and Cell Biology
> Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry
> University of Western Ontario
> Dental Sciences Building, Room 00075
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> 
> 
> >>> Paul Walton <[email protected]> 28/01/2010 8:24 am >>>
> John,
> I have forwarded this message on to Martin, who does laser capture. Alas, I 
> am the microinjection fellow.
> Paul
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 

> From: John Kiernan <[email protected]>
> Date: January 27, 2010 10:41:15 PM EST (CA)
> To: delphine eberle <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Stains for Macrophages for Laser Capture Microdissection purpose
> 
> How about phase contrast optics and identifying the cells by their shapes? 
> Non-specific addition of colour to a section of unfixed tissue probably will 
> not show the cells any more clearly. I have taken the liberty of including a 
> colleague, Dr Paul Walton, in this reply. He does laser capture 
> microdissection and may have something to suggest.
>  
> John Kiernan
> Anatomy, UWO
> London, Canada
> = = =
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: delphine eberle <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 16:27
> Subject: Stains for Macrophages for Laser Capture Microdissection purpose
> To: [email protected], [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]

> > Hi,
> >  
> > I have another question following Macrophage staining.
> > I am setting up a Laser Capture Microdissection protocol to dissect 
> > macrophages from atherosclerosis lesions (non fixed frozen sections) and 
> > extract RNA for gene expression purpose.
> > I am looking at a quick staining (less than 30min otherwise RNA is 
> > degradated) for macrophages in that context? Any suggestions?
> >  
> > Thanks a lot,
> > Delphine
> > 
> > Delphine Eberlé PhD 
> > UCSF Department of Vascular Surgery
> > [email protected] <java_script:main.compose('new', 
> > '[email protected]')>  
> > 
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:22:53 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [Histonet] Histology Special Stains for Macrophages
> > > CC: [email protected]
> > > 
> > > None of the methods mentioned in the enquiry are stains for macrophages. 
> > > Research workers who never took Histology 101 often stain cells of the 
> > > monocyte/macrophage lineage immunohistochemically (IHC), using very 
> > > expensive primary antibodies and fairly expensive kits to amplify and 
> > > detect the binding sites. IHC is necessary if you must find every 
> > > macrophage, including a tissue's recent monocyte immigrants that haven't 
> > > yet done any work. Macrophages that have been busily eating blood are 
> > > full of brown granules that don't need any staining. 
> > > 
> > > Ordinary people recognize macrophages by their appearance in sections 
> > > stained with a well done H&E or with one of the many Romanowsky-Giemsa 
> > > blood stains. With the latter it's important to get the pH right - much 
> > > lower for sections of formaldehyde-fixed objects (pH4 to 5) than for 
> > > methanol-fixed films or smears (traditionally 6.8). It's all very well 
> > > explained in RD Lillie & GM Fullmer's "Histopathologic Technic..." (4th 
> > > ed 1976, pp.193-197; the 3rd edition, 1965, is OK too) and also in more 
> > > recent textbooks including those by Bancroft & Gamble, Geoffrey Brown, 
> > > Freida Carson and, of course 
> > > Yours truly.
> > > 
> > > John Kiernan
> > > Anatomy, UWO
> > > London, Canada
> > > http://publish.uwo.ca/~jkiernan/bookfind.htm
> > > = = =
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Willman, Sharon" <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:12
> > > Subject: [Histonet] Histology Special Stains for Macrophages
> > > To: "[email protected]" 
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > We are needing to do a special stain for macrophages. What 
> > > > is the most common stain for that? Does anyone do a Sudan 
> > > > Black, Alcian Blue or Van Gieson for macrophages? Any 
> > > > information would be appreciated.
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > Sharon
> > > > 
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> 
> Christopher Pin, Ph.D.
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> Depts. Of Paediatrics and Physiology &
>     Pharmacology
> Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry
> University of Western Ontario
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