Have you validated this processing?  Leaving the tissue in 70% alcohol for 48 
hours is not standard, and thus requires all of the hassles associated with 
validation.


Bill Tench
Associate Dir. Laboratory Services
Chief, Cytology Services
Palomar Medical Center
555 E. Valley Parkway
Escondido, California  92025
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phyllis Thaxton
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 7:32 AM
To: Kuhnla, Melissa; Mahoney,Janice A; Mike Pence; Joyce Cline; 
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 We run a weekend (Friday til Monday AM)  breast run where the tissues are in 
10% NBF for 8 hours, then in 70% alcohol for 48 hours in order to complete 
processing on Monday morning. So far no problems.
Phyllis Thaxton HT(ASCP)QIHC
DCH Regional Medical Center
Tuscaloosa, AL 




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From: "Kuhnla, Melissa" <[email protected]>
To: "Mahoney,Janice A" <[email protected]>; Mike Pence 
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Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 12:02:32 PM
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I disagree.  Prolonged formalin fixation (over 48 hrs), diminishes signals

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Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:05 PM
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Formalin fixation time does not impact the results of FISH as it does IHC.
Jan M
Omaha

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From: Mike Pence [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:00 AM
To: Mahoney,Janice A; Joyce Cline; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: New Cap Guidelines for Her2 and ER/PR

I don't think it matters if you do Her2 by FISH or IHC the time is still 48hr. 
I hope I am wrong, but I don't think I am.

Mike

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Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 10:25 AM
To: 'Joyce Cline'; [email protected]
Subject: [Histonet] RE: New Cap Guidelines for Her2 and ER/PR


We have decided to reflex to FISH those breasts that do not fall within the 
recommended formalin fixation time.  We do work on Saturdays so it is only the 
rare 3 day weekends that this comes into play. Jan M Omaha

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Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 10:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Histonet] New Cap Guidelines for Her2 and ER/PR

Does anyone have any experience with storing formalin fixed breast tissue in 
70% before processing?  I am trying to comply with the new guidelines set forth 
by CAP and ASCO with regard to Her2 and ER/PR and since my lab does not operate 
on the weekend we have been well above the
48 hour recommended formalin fixation time.  Does 70% affect antigenicity for 
either Her2 or ER/PR?  Any information or suggestions will be greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks :)


Ronda Souders
Hagerstown Medical Laboratory
301-665-4980
fax 301-665-4941
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