Sarah
The proteinase K does a lot more than break the formalin linkages.  To isolate 
the RNA or DNA you have to break up the cell membranes, nuclear membranes and 
all the other proteins in the cellular matrix to isolate the nucleic acids.  I 
don't think an antigen retrieval solution will do any of that.  We use a kit 
from Qiagen that is very easy to use.   Also, if you haven't done much RNA 
work, remember that there are RNAses everwhere.  Wear gloves, wipe down your 
microtome with RNAse away or some other such product. Use a clean blade. 
Discard the first couple of cuts from your block.  Too many fingers have 
touched them.  We usually cut 10um sections for our extractions.  Use clean 
water in your waterbath - fresh just for your RNA tissues.  We keep slide boxes 
separate for RNA work so bare fingers don't touch them. As for how many 
sections - it depends on how much message you will be looking for.  You will 
have to try your method to find out.    If you cut curls for extractions, we 
use 10um curls.   Use disposable plastic tubes as these are mostly RNAse free.  
We routinely isolate sufficient quantities of good RNA from FFPE tissues, but 
you still need to use good RNA technique.
If you are making up your own master mixes and primer mixes, be sure to use 
RNAse free water.
Good luck
Sue

Sue Hunter, Supervisor
Advanced Diagnostics
Beaumont Health System
Royal Oak MI
248-898-5146
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarah Dysart
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Histonet] Out of my comfort zone...

So...I have been asked to do some micro-dissection on some slides and then do 
downstream RT/PCR on them.  My molecular knowledge doesn't go much out of the 
world of IHC so...here is my question...

Has anyone ever substituted Citrate Buffer pH6 (or whatever HIER solution you 
are using) for proteinase K for use in RNA isolation and then later PCR?  Does 
this work?  The main question is will the HIER step take off the formalin 
linkage from the nucleic acids, or just the protein?

One last thing is what else goes into these solutions other than Citrate Buffer 
and Tween?  I haven't made it up in forever, I have just been ordering it from 
companies...I know...lazy...

Thanks

Sarah Goebel-Dysart, BA, HT(ASCP), QIHC (ASCP) Histotechnologist Mirna 
Therapeutics
2150 Woodward Street
Suite 100
Austin, Texas  78744
(512)901-0900 ext. 6912

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