Hi,
years ago we did a stain called CAB (=one step trichrome) regularly on 
liver-tissue. I don't know if it was because of ignorance or with aim, but it 
was done without Bouin. The result was blue-grey hepatocytes and darker blue 
collagen.  - also totally different to the result with Bouin (red hepatocytes).

I think the Bouin is less a "re-fixation" than more an "binding-site retrival" 
in this context.

Gudrun


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Betreff: [Histonet] Trichrome & Fixation

Hi,
     It is interesting that you should mention the importance of fixation on 
the Trichrome stain. I have an image of two murine hearts processed, cut and 
stained side by side. The only difference between the two is that they were 
harvested at different times, so one sat in formalin long enough to be properly 
fixed the other one was placed in the fixative then immediately brought in to 
be processed from 70% ethanol on. They are *totally* different looking. The red 
muscle tissue looks more purple therefore less distinct from the blue blood 
vessels. You get a similar effect with lung bronchial epithelium.

Cheers,
Amos

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> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 12:34:33 -0500
> From: John Kiernan <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Masson trichrome and H and E
> To: Emily Brown <[email protected]>,
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> If you can't get two colours with H&E, don't expect to get the colour 
> scheme right with Masson's trichrome, which needs more skill. If you 
> are hoping to show basement membranes in the kidney, you would do 
> better to use a technically simpler staining method such as 
> picro-sirius red or periodic acid-Schiff. If for some reason you 
> really need three colours, a one-step trichrome such as Gomori's, 
> Cason's or Gabe's might be the way to go rather than Masson's or one 
> of the other multi-step trichromes. Remember that all trichrome 
> methods are greatly influenced by the fixative. A post-fixation 
> treatment of the sections, usually with picric acid, is needed for 
> formaldehyde-fixed tissues. Some alternative post-fixation treatments 
> were proposed by Yu & Chapman (2003) J. Histotechnol. 26(2): 131-134, but 
> their coloured photos were not very convincing.
>
> Making up staining solutions in-house is always cheaper than buying 
> pre-made solutions.
>
> John Kiernan
> London, Canada
>
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