Curt, we went through  the same thing, but for the embedding we keep a plastic 
bucket on the bench and lined with a biohazard bag, and put all the lids and 
papers in that. We keep those for a week in case some tissue ends up missing. 
Then it goes into the red cans.

At the microtome we do use the smallish plastic biohazard waste cans with 
self-closing lid. 
(https://www.fishersci.com/shop/products/eagle-step-on-biohazard-waste-containers-3/p-36261)
 They are now used to this and it is not really a problem. They are not allowed 
to prop them open. We tried red 5-gallon "paint can" type containers with fully 
removable lids, but the techs were required to put the lids on every time they 
moved away from the microtome. Of course that did not happen. Our safety people 
finally said we must have self-closing lids. We tried several kinds, even one 
that was auto-open with a sensor, but that did not open fast enough. The foot 
pedal works ok. 

We went through the stainer water issue as well when we were considering the 
Ventana stainer that disposes directly to the drain. The city water department 
came in and checked out everything and passed it all off. He also gave us a lot 
of good info about what we can and cannot put down the drain here. Best to 
contact local authorities on that since it may be different than ours.


Tim Morken
Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus 
Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies
Department of Pathology
UC San Francisco Medical Center




-----Original Message-----
From: Curt via Histonet [mailto:histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:19 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] embedding and microtomy "medical waste"

So here's a good one for you all... we had the county health department come 
through the lab and ding us on medical waste... specifically the plastic 
disposable lids at embedding, the lens paper used for wrapping specimens such 
as ECC and EMB. Then they got us on the Kim Wipes used to clean the water bath 
at microtomy... those papers have human tissue on them so they need to be 
treated as medical waste... NOW we have to have red cans next to all microtomes 
and embedding stations. The obvious issue outside of cost and logic is that 
these medical waste cans all seem to have self closing lids which really 
interferes with the rhythm and pace of work when one needs to reach over with a 
food to open the lid after every block is embedded and when they water bath is 
cleaned after every block...

Simple question(s): 1)does anyone else have to do such things to contain the 
waste, 2) does anyone know of a source for medical waste cans that do not have 
these frustrating self closing lids... if we could simple remove the lid and 
replace it when done then we could deal with it, the cost is one thing but 
slowing down work flow is a problem.

And just for a little more humor, they actually wanted me to contain and 
dispose of the water runoff from our two automated slide stainers, we run about 
2200 slides a night... that would be many gallons of waste water every night 
and would not be within the budget.... We in turn ran a fish kill test which 
demonstrated that the water runoff which contain little Hematoxylin, bluing and 
clarifier do not pose any significant threat to the environment, not even in 
California....

Bottom line to all this, I need some red trash cans with removable lids, if 
they're still out there somewhere.... Anywhere.....


Thanks for your input,

Curt

Ps, I didn't proff read thie smail... if something is not spelt correctly, 
don't hold it against me....

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