There's been excellent discussion on fixation, IHC and cells blocks, with Joe Walker's email summing up the situation nicely. For those interested in side by side comparison of IHC staining of cytology cell blocks using different fixatives go to http://cpqa.ca/main/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2014-Thomson.pdf
Regards John Garratt www.ciqc.ca ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Monday, October 28, 2019 7:38 AM, Joe W. Walker, Jr. via Histonet <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Terri, > > At one time we did the same thing but have changed our approach in light of > the FDA's and CAP's view point on ASRs. The potential problem is that IHCs > are all validated/tested by the manufacturer on FFPE tissue. By introducing > methanol/ethanol as the first step in fixation, you potentially have altered > the initial fixation steps. I've attended several meetings on this topic and > have been advised to stop performing IHC on methanol/ethanol fixed specimens > unless we validated that this fixation step doesn't alter the expression of > the target antigen in the tissue. Formalin fixation after an alcohol fixation > doesn't change/reverse any alterations to the antigen in the tissue. > > We utilize an IBF tissue fixative but have also validated this fixative with > our antibody panels that we offer. The IBF does contain a small amount of > alcohol and the fixative is slightly different than 10% buffered formalin. > > I agree that CytoLyt is excellent at lysing red blood cells but would just > caution you on using the specimen for IHC without a disclaimer within your > report or validating your IHCs on these specimens to ensure they work as > expected. Keep in mind that most control tissue is FFPE and using it to > compare if the IHC worked in a first fixed alcohol specimen is not an apples > to apples comparison. > > Cheers, > > Joe W. Walker, Jr. MS, SCT(ASCP) > Anatomical Pathology Manager > [email protected], www.rrmc.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: Terri Braud via Histonet [email protected] > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:14 AM > To: '[email protected]' [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Histonet] Cell block processing > > [External Email] This email originated from outside of the organization. > Think before you click: Don’t click on links, open attachments or respond to > requests for sensitive information if the email looks suspicious or you don’t > recognize the sender. > > We collect our FNAs in CytoLyt. We also use it to wash all our non-gyn > fluids, but then we fix the cell block "pellet" in formalin. > We have had no problems with immunos, and are able to lyse the RBCs to > provide a nice, clear specimen. > Hope this helps. > > Terri L. Braud, HT(ASCP) > Anatomic Pathology Supervisor > Laboratory > Holy Redeemer Hospital > 1648 Huntingdon Pike > Meadowbrook, PA 19046 > ph: 215-938-3689 > fax: 215-938-3874 > Care, Comfort, and Heal > > Histonet mailing list > [email protected] > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__http%3A%2F%2Flists.utsouthwestern.edu%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhistonet__%3B!5JlSGkcjda6Eqs5J!rHP2_dFONxwRmR87ddavejT_o6RIcXBah8jw7nMUO0tWdC5KpksUnk2bttyIMkU%24&data=02|01|jwwalker%40rrmc.org|eeac9b3afe444de27cd208d75bb1634b|0e55647d438e4a448437e959c3cf2240|0|0|637078689748526729&sdata=1%2BpvxH9TcvKxAo6jgjr7fobCAUUz35sHbsLfoBvHmGE%3D&reserved=0 > [https://www.rrmc.org/app/files/public/2633/2019_hyht_sig-_jan2019_final.jpg] > > Histonet mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list [email protected] http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
