Karl,

OHM is not OSM. This is actually the 'historic' mailing list of OSM. 
Occasionally, we highjack it for OHM matters and similarly, we try Susanna's 
patience by borrowing time on Wikimaps hangouts. 

OHM is not incorporated at the moment and has been supported out-of-pocket by a 
few people and topomancy. Given limited resources, decisions have been taken by 
whomever put in the time to implement them.

There have been a number of grants submitted, sometimes successfully even, in 
the past years to build various bits that needed doing. We need to talk about 
what part of OHM fits within the current NEH call and the team that will handle 
it. 

Why don't you add to the etherpad agenda for the hangout?
https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/OHM_Meeting_Dec_18

-rhw


On Dec 14, 2014, at 8:00 AM, [email protected] wrote:

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> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:48:24 -0800 (PST)
> From: Karl Grossner <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OHM] OHM Hangout - 18 Dec, 8am PT US / 4pm London
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> Hello OHMers, 
> 
> I'm planning to join the upcoming hangout and have a few questions I thought 
> I'd put out in advance... 
> 
> The discussion of going for an NEH grant has me confused. I'm wondering how a 
> large(ish) federal grant and the various norms for that sort of thing squares 
> with OSM/OHM approached to development so far. For example, grants have 
> submitting institutions, and PIs who formulate phasing and technical plans 
> for deliverable work products and are then responsible to taxpayers for 
> results; key staff are named, etc. etc. 
> 
> My impression of OSM development (no expert, though) is that it has come 
> together ad hoc, dev decisions arrived at collectively and so on. Is that the 
> case? Has OSM Foundation received government or foundation support in the 
> past? If not, is OHM charting a different course? Is anyone "lead" or 
> co-lead" from a grant perspective? As OSM Foundation is a UK corporation, is 
> it even eligible for NEH funding? Also, it strikes me that "mapping what's on 
> the ground" is different from mapping what's on old maps in some important 
> ways, with some key research-y questions ahead. 
> 
> Separately, my own interest is in putting together an "Orbis Initiative" to 
> build a global historical transport network data repository and some tools 
> for ingest, creation, search/browse and analysis. So that limits it to 
> settlements and inter-city data for the most part (plus maritime) and 
> includes some network analytic tools. I plan to seek big(ish) funding and it 
> would happen in a university research/library setting. I fully support the 
> idea of OHM and hope for strong connections if not integration in the future. 
> As I put this idea together I want to keep you all informed and welcome 
> feedback/reaction. 
> 
> cheers, Karl 
> 
> ------------- 
> Karl Grossner 
> Stanford,CA US 
> www.kgeographer.org 


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