The meeting with the developers will be this week at 1:30pm PT on Google Hangouts - meet.google.com/dtq-ykqr-jdo.
Please let me know if you'll attend or have any specific questions or thoughts. Jerry's are great. Thanks, Jeff On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 7:30 AM Jeff Meyer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jerry - > > First of all, clearly, you know more about the JOSM extension world than I > do. I just know it's tough to do edits with data from a bunch of time > periods in the same area. > > Any chance you could help me guide these efforts? : ) > > I haven't set up a time yet, but we could work around your schedule. If > you could join us, that would be great! > > For your questions, see my current draft answers below & I'm open to > correction / suggestions for any of them. > > Would you create a standalone OHM plugin? > - I'm not sure. Do you mean "not an internal JOSM plugin?" What I had in > mind was an OHM editing plugin that you could select from the Preferences > panel and was assuming that was not a JOSM internal plugin. What do you > suggest is the best approach. > > Would the code reside on GitHub? Josm still lives in SVN & the mirror > Github repo is about 6 months out-of-date > - I was aware that JOSM was in SVN and assumed that that would be the best > place to keep it. > > Have you considered the JOSM Scripting > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Scripting> plugin? This > might be a way of achieving endpoint toggling w/o touching Jsom core. > - I had not! I'll check into it. To be far, endpoint toggling is not the > core interest! > > Validation has been in Josm core since 2013. What approach would you want > to use for the validation/missing data flagging? > - Again, this is new to me, but in looking, I'd think we'd want to host > the rules on an external URL from the normal JOSM validator rules, as those > are OSM specific. Then, maybe add the rules with the same scripting tool > that flips the end point? Does that make sense? > > How would you plan maintenance? I'm always a bit flabbergasted how many > plugins stop working when I spin up a version which is a few months old. > - Great Q, and one that I'd need to discuss with the developers. My guess > is this would be a model where we'd wait until it broke, call up the devs > and ask for a fix. Not the greatest model, as it's "just too late" instead > of "just in time," but also probably more reasonable from a cost > perspective. Unless, of course, we had a JOSM-plugin-smart member of the > community who could help with that maintenance... > > Any thoughts, suggestions? This whole idea is a blank slate right now. > It'd be really great if you could join me on the call (and no additional > duty beyond that... unless you want it! : ) ) > > Thanks, > Jeff > > > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 3:29 AM SK53 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Jeff, >> >> Just some general queries about how you plan to do this? >> >> - Would you create a standalone OHM plugin? >> - Would the code reside on GitHub? Josm still lives in SVN & the >> mirror Github repo is about 6 months out-of-date >> - Have you considered the JOSM Scripting >> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Scripting> plugin? >> This might be a way of achieving endpoint toggling w/o touching Jsom core. >> - Validation has been in Josm core since 2013. What approach would >> you want to use for the validation/missing data flagging? >> - How would you plan maintenance? I'm always a bit flabbergasted how >> many plugins stop working when I spin up a version which is a few months >> old. >> >> Personally, I'd be hesitant about anything which may require >> integration/forking/… with Josm core. Largely because it's enormous and >> changes frequently. Being hosted on SVN is also a downside. >> >> I'd probably like something which automatically adds start & end dates as >> one creates data (or rather tags data, which is when a true historical >> element is created). They'd need to be set by the user for an editing >> session. >> >> Regards, >> >> Jerry >> >> On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 at 23:12, Jeff Meyer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi all - >>> >>> I'm looking at getting some JOSM extension work done, talking with some >>> developers next week & could use your input. >>> >>> Here's what I have in mind so far, please let me know what else you'd >>> suggest: >>> >>> So far, suggestions include: >>> - Time-based filter / slider to make it easier to work on one point in >>> time >>> - Warnings for ways / relations missing key tags: start_date, end_date, >>> license, source, attribution, etc. >>> - Updated slippy map to point at OHM & not OSM >>> - Toggle to change between OSM and OHM API endpoint >>> >>> Any thoughts? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jeff >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Jeff Meyer >>> 206-676-2347 >>> osm: Open Historical Map (OHM) >>> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map> / my OSM user >>> page <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer> >>> t: @OpenHistMap >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Historic mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic >>> >> > > -- > Jeff Meyer > 206-676-2347 > osm: Open Historical Map (OHM) > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map> / my OSM user > page <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer> > t: @OpenHistMap > > > > > -- Jeff Meyer 206-676-2347 osm: Open Historical Map (OHM) <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map> / my OSM user page <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer> t: @OpenHistMap
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