On 1/7/20 9:14 PM, Rob H Warren wrote:
> 
>>> Richard,
>>> You know the OSM data model does not deal well with change and has poor 
>>> (geometry<>feature<>label) separation. My suggestion is that since the 
>>> roadway has not changed significantly, have the geometry encoded as a 
>>> series of nodes that get allocated to different temporal ways for the 
>>> different "features" of that route over time. It is not a great solution 
>>> but it works and is compatible with the renderers. The properties of 
>>> roadways (width, etc...) are encoded at the way levels in OSM which lets 
>>> you reuse the OSM highway tagging system.
>>
>> based on my experiences in the past with JOSM, i think such an approach
>> would be pretty error prone and difficult. over on Slack, Leon Karcher
>> suggested tagging the single way with its most appropriate recent tags
>> and using relations for the older one.
> 
> I don't believe that the relations will covey the state / properties of the 
> road as a way would.

not sure i understand. Leon Karcher gave this example over on slack,
which seems like it works to me:

https://openhistoricalmap.org/way/198180780

my concern comes from my experience back in 2009-10 when fixing screw
ups from the TIGER 2007 import was a think; teasing out duplicate ways
in JOSM was a pain in the ass, and i don't think anything has happened
in the intervening 10 years that improves anything. it will be error
prone and fussy unless editing tools improve.

>> way way back in 2015, this section of the OHM wiki page got set up: 
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map#Short-term_plans the 
>> link to OHM/Tags was never filled in in the 4+ years since. i think it's 
>> high time we started describing how people are tagging to reflect historic 
>> features and dating. i certainly am working through a lot with my stuff, and 
>> the method Leon is using could certainly go in as well, as examples of 
>> experiments as this is largly experimental at this time.
> 
> I've checked, the page isn't locked. Why don't you start documenting how you 
> are tagging roads?

it had been locked, someone must have changed that.

richard
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