Hi Noel, Guilherme, Those state and country lines you see & places are actually from Natural Earth Data <https://www.naturalearthdata.com/> & they're aren't really supposed to be there... that's one of the items that needs to be cleaned up. OSM actually uses Natural Earth Data as a substitute for its own data when you're zoomed further out... it's another item we'll have to adjust & work around, as there's no Historical Version of Natural Earth (although I'm trying to collect or create shape files of old boundaries here <https://github.com/OpenHistoricalMap/data>.)
Natural Earth is a bit of a GIS & Internet treasure due to its completeness, consistency, and also its license, which is public domain <https://www.naturalearthdata.com/about/>. But... back to OHM licensing. I've been an advocate of cc0 licensing by default, item-level licensing for exceptions, and of not importing OSM data* at scale into OHM. That said, I'm not the only one involved in this project. I'd love to get more people involved. Perhaps we need a licensing committee to put together some policies & practices? I'd support anyone taking the lead on that. : ) Which reminds me: we'll restart our regular meeting schedule & I'm also thinking of a way to have ongoing async discussions on topics like these. Maybe some more slack rooms? I figure we'll just add a few more until OSM-US kick us out? Last: bug filing! As soon as we get the github organizations squared away and code moved to where it should be, we'll post a link for posting bugs that you come across. Thanks, Jeff * Quick observations about importing OSM data: - OSM as an organization and legal entity is very protective of its data & should be! - The OSM license is designed to be viral, literally to infect the entire OHM database, should we import too much OSM data into OHM - If this happens, we won't be able to freely export OHM data & we'll run into similar issues OSM has with its licensing, which are both subtle and impactful - That all said, I'd love to figure out a way to have as much OSM data as possible in OHM. One way might be to invite authors of OSM data to recontribute their data to OHM... - Bottom line: we need more heads wrapped around this issue than just mine! On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 7:02 AM Noel MacLochlainn <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Great to see the site back up!! I will try to use in the near future. > > I have the same question as Guilherme. Has new data introduced to OHM > database produced an updated background default map? I didn't notice that > on the previous site. If there is new data introduced from OSM then does > it have start/end dates? Just wondering, I'm new to geomapping so maybe > I'm misunderstanding some thing or technology. > > regards > Noel > > On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 12:05 PM <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Send Historic mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Historic digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: OHM Updates (Guilherme Braga Alves) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 21:41:22 -0300 >> From: Guilherme Braga Alves <[email protected]> >> To: Open Historical Map <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [OHM] OHM Updates >> Message-ID: >> <CANXtPgb2pLDoKzMod+Ew=Zj= >> [email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi Jeff, >> >> it is great to see the site back up. The new interface is also great. >> >> I'm finding some errors, but I guess it is expected at this point. On the >> other hand, I can confirm that I was able to login to the platform and >> make >> edits. >> >> My main question right now is about some new features added to the map, >> like state lines (they were not there before, were they?), cities and >> towns >> and also some roads shown at larger zoom levels. Where did this data came >> from? Does it suggest a change about our policies regarding OpenStreetMap? >> >> To be more direct: is there any discussion about adapting OHM license in >> order to make possible to import data from OSM? >> >> Thanks for all the great work all of you involved in these new changes. >> >> Hope everyone is fine in such difficult times, >> Guilherme. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/historic/attachments/20200515/7a466878/attachment-0001.htm >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Historic mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Historic Digest, Vol 82, Issue 3 >> *************************************** >> > _______________________________________________ > Historic mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic > -- Jeff Meyer 206-676-2347 osm: Open Historical Map (OHM) <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map> / my OSM user page <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer> t: @OpenHistMap
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