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Edward Capriolo commented on HIVE-1293:
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I see you have made mention to zookeeper. Do we really need zookeeper to 
implement locking when we already have a transactional MetaStore via JPOX 
(Derby/MySQL)? From my prospecting on the management side and from a 
development side having to integrate and understand the Zookeeper API for 
simple low performance locking seems overkill.  

For example, I understand that zookeeper has facilities to auto-expire old 
locks and other features that make it seem ideal in a use case, but I think the 
visibility into it is rather low. If our locks were implemented in the 
meta-store, clearing them would be easy to do thought hive commands or with 
JDBC. What tools would we have to investigate Hive-Zookeeper-Locking? 

I say this because of experience with hbase-zookeeper. Other the 'hbase status' 
zookeeper is a total black box and makes troubleshooting that component of 
hbase difficult. I would not want to see hive go down the same road. 

No matter which implementation we go with we should have  DDL commands like 
'show locks' 'clear locks'. 

> Concurreny Model for Hive
> -------------------------
>
>                 Key: HIVE-1293
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-1293
>             Project: Hadoop Hive
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Query Processor
>            Reporter: Namit Jain
>            Assignee: Namit Jain
>
> Concurrency model for Hive:
> Currently, hive does not provide a good concurrency model. The only 
> guanrantee provided in case of concurrent readers and writers is that
> reader will not see partial data from the old version (before the write) and 
> partial data from the new version (after the write).
> This has come across as a big problem, specially for background processes 
> performing maintenance operations.
> The following possible solutions come to mind.
> 1. Locks: Acquire read/write locks - they can be acquired at the beginning of 
> the query or the write locks can be delayed till move
> task (when the directory is actually moved). Care needs to be taken for 
> deadlocks.
> 2. Versioning: The writer can create a new version if the current version is 
> being read. Note that, it is not equivalent to snapshots,
> the old version can only be accessed by the current readers, and will be 
> deleted when all of them have finished.
> Comments.

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