Regardless of whether the user uses a HiveServer, looks like the logical
place to do locking or concurrency control would be at the metastore DB.
This is actually one big advantage of Hive. The r/w lock or access control
can be achieved by a DB row with lock count for each partition, etc. This
might be over-simplfying it, but the metastore DB seems to be the ideal
candidate.  Thoughts?


On 9/9/09 12:52 PM, "Prasad Chakka" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I thought your script runs the two job sequentially. If these two queries are
> run in parallel then the error can be expected since Hive doesn’t try to
> acquire locks before reading or writing. I don’t think there are any plans to
> support this kind of locking (this can only be done if all queries go through
> HiveServer otherwise lot of orphaned locks will bring the system to halt). I
> think you should do some kind of locking (possibly with HDFS files) to prevent
> queries being executed simultaneously.
> 
> Any other ideas?
> 
> Prasad
> 
> 
> 
> From: Eva Tse <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 12:36:11 -0700
> To: <[email protected]>, Dhruba Borthakur <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Files does not exist error: concurrency control on hive
> queries...
> 
> Hi Prasad,
> 
> Are you implying the expected behavior for these queries should be run
> sequentially by hive because one is r/w and one is read-only ?
> 
> For clarifications, these two queries are running concurrently in two separate
> jobs as below.
> 
>> Query 1 is run within a job that does the following essentially:
>> For every hour:
>>    - parse log files to generate completed sessions information
>>    - load completed sessions into 48 partitions (for the prior 48 hours)
>>    - merge small files using ‘insert overwrite ... select from’ on every
>> other 8 partitions. Essentially, we would issue 6 separate queries to merge 6
>> partitions at the same time, not sequentially. (We do this to minimize time
>> required.) And this is query 1.
>> 
>> Query 2 is run within another job that does select on 24 partitions (aka
>> daily summary) for the previous day. This job just run this query in a loop
>> for testing purposes.
> 
> The error comes from query 2 saying ‘file not found’ for a file that we are
> merging in query 1 at that point in time.
> 
> We need to rerun the test to be able to catch the failure at that time to see
> if the file was there at that instance. In the previous run, the merge query
> succeeded, so I would imagine the file not there after the merge. And, am not
> sure if that file was still there at that instance when the failure happens.
> 
> Thanks for the help!
> Eva.
> 
> On 9/9/09 10:29 AM, "Prasad Chakka" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> The first query will not return unless it copied the files to the dest
>> directory and this operation is atomic (FileSystem.rename() guarantees that).
>> Since second query is not executed until the first query returns, this
>> problem may be due to a bug in HDFS (highly unlikely) or an issue with HDFS
>> configuration or related to EC3.
>> 
>> The second query knows the file name
>> ‘sessionsFacts_P20090909T021823L20090908T09-r-00006’ so Hive client does was
>> able to successfully call getFileStatus() on it but the mapper (of second
>> query) is not able to do the same thing. So either this file has been deleted
>> after the Hive client accessed it but before the mapper access it or the
>> machine on which the mapper is being executed can’t see this file. Can you
>> manually check whether the file exists at all after the job fails?
>> 
>> Prasad
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Eva Tse <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
>> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 10:19:24 -0700
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Files does not exist error: concurrency control on hive
>> queries...
>> 
>> 
>> Prasad,
>> We believe the problem is that one of the query is doing an ‘insert overwrite
>> ... select from’ which actually is deleting and merging the small files. The
>> other query somehow couldn’t find those files that it thought it has seen
>> before and failed. So, it looks like a concurrency issue.
>> 
>> Yongqiang,
>> Could you elaborate a bit on why you say this is not a bug?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Eva.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/9/09 9:55 AM, "Prasad Chakka" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> If a certain input file/dir does not exist then the job can’t be submitted.
>>> Since only a few reducers are failing, the problem could be something else.
>>> Eva, Does the same job succeed on a second try? Ie. Is the file/dir
>>> available eventually? What is the replication factor?
>>> 
>>> Prasad
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Yongqiang He <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 04:07:31 -0700
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Files does not exist error: concurrency control on hive
>>> queries...
>>> 
>>> Hi Eva,
>>>    After a close at the code, I think this is not a bug. We need to find out
>>> how to avoid this.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Yongqiang
>>> On 09-9-9 下午1:31, "He Yongqiang" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Eva,
>>>>     Can you open a new jira for this?  And let’s discuss and resolve this
>>>> issue. 
>>>> I guess this is because the partition metadata is added before the data is
>>>> available. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Yongqiang
>>>> On 09-9-9 下午1:18, "Eva Tse" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are planning to start enabling ad-hoc querying on our hive warehouse
>>>>> and we tested some of the concurrent queries and found the following
>>>>> issue:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Query 1 – doing ‘insert overwrite table yyy .... partition (dateint = xxx)
>>>>> select ...  from yyy where dateint = xxx’  This is done to merge small
>>>>> files within a partition in table yyy
>>>>> Query 2 – doing some select on the same table joining another table.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What we found is that query 2 would fail with the following exceptions in
>>>>> multiple reducers.
>>>>> java.io.FileNotFoundException: File does not exist:
>>>>> hdfs://xxxxxxxxxxxxx.ec2.internal:9000/user/hive/dataeng/warehouse/nccp_se
>>>>> ssion_facts/dateint=20090908/hour=9/sessionsFacts_P20090909T021823L2009090
>>>>> 8T09-r-00006
>>>>>  at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hdfs.DistributedFileSystem.getFileStatus(DistributedFile
>>>>> System.java:457)
>>>>>  at org.apache.hadoop.fs.FileSystem.getLength(FileSystem.java:671)
>>>>>  at org.apache.hadoop.io.SequenceFile$Reader.(SequenceFile.java:1417)
>>>>>  at org.apache.hadoop.io.SequenceFile$Reader.(SequenceFile.java:1412)
>>>>>  at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.mapred.SequenceFileRecordReader.(SequenceFileRecordReade
>>>>> r.java:43)
>>>>>  at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.mapred.SequenceFileInputFormat.getRecordReader(SequenceF
>>>>> ileInputFormat.java:63)
>>>>>  at 
>>>>> org.apache.hadoop.hive.ql.io.HiveInputFormat.getRecordReader(HiveInputForm
>>>>> at.java:236)
>>>>>  at org.apache.hadoop.mapred.MapTask.runOldMapper(MapTask.java:336)
>>>>>  at org.apache.hadoop.mapred.MapTask.run(MapTask.java:305)
>>>>>  at org.apache.hadoop.mapred.Child.main(Child.java:170)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this expected? If so, is there a jira or is it planned to be addressed?
>>>>> We are trying to think of workaround, but haven’t thought of good ones as
>>>>> swapping of files would ideally be handled inside hive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please let us know your feedback.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Eva.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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