I completely missed that. Being public threw me off.

-Sanjit

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:43 PM, John Sichi <[email protected]> wrote:

> It is a helper method called by the main serialize method; it shouldn't
> actually be public at all.  Note that as an example, this code is good for
> understanding the interactions, but it is not a good example for code
> structure or performance; I'm working on refactoring it.
>
> JVS
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Sanjit Jhala [[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:29 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: SerDe and Rows
>
> Btw whats the purpose of the alternative serialize API in HBaseSerDe.java ?
> public static boolean serialize(ByteStream.Output out, Object obj,
> ObjectInspector objInspector, byte[] separators, int level, Text
> nullSequence, boolean escaped, byte escapeChar, boolean[] needsEscape)
>
> It doesn't look like this API is part of the SerDe interface and I'm
> wondering where it gets called from?
>
> -Sanjit
>
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Sanjit Jhala <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> Yes, I think you can do this as long as all inserts follow the scheme you
> mention. In fact you can even think of having point in time row versioning
> defined at some timestamp T as the collection of the latest versions of
> cells with timestamps <= T. As you rightly point out, its all about the use
> case :)
>
> -Sanjit
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:39 PM, John Sichi <[email protected]<mailto:
> [email protected]>> wrote:
> Sorry for my slow response; answers below.
>
> On May 20, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Sanjit Jhala wrote:
>
> > Thanks John, that does look quite interesting. It looks like in addition
> to containing a bunch of cells, the row class needs to provide some
> mechanism (eg a map) to efficiently lookup the cell corresponding to a given
> qualified column (ie column family + qualifier). In the case where a Hive
> column matches an entire column family, do you use this same map using the
> property that the column family is a prefix of the map key or is there an
> additional map that maps the column family to a set of qualifiers or
> directly to a set of cells ?
>
> There is a separate map (LazyHBaseCellMap).  LazyHBaseRow instantiates this
> for Hive column values which correspond to HBase column families.
>
> > The wiki also indicates that in future multiple versions of a cell could
> be exposed to the storage handler since Hive can deal with non-unique rows.
> I can definitely see how you should be able to  store non-unique Hive rows
> in Hypertable (since Hypertable supports multi-versioned cells), however
> since the fundamental unit of storage in the BigTable design is a cell, I
> don't understand how you propose to map multiple cell versions back to
> non-unique Hive rows. Maybe you're thinking of mapping them to a single Hive
> row, where the columns are of the List type? And then maybe the query
> language allows you to filter by the first, last or any value in the list?
>
>
> Yeah, I realized this recently when I started thinking about it again :)
>
> Exposing per-cell timestamps is possible, and there are a number of ways to
> do it, including the one you mention.  But they're all unwieldy, so we
> should probably defer them until there's a very good use case.
>
> A simpler scheme I'm thinking about is to map a Hive partition to a
> particular timestamp.  Then for queries, this will specify a point-in-time
> (we would need to validate that only equality predicates are used on the
> partition key since returning multiple versions of a row isn't well-defined
> as you correctly point out).  For inserts, all cells created would get the
> same timestamp.  Maybe this would cover the majority of use-cases?
>
> JVS
>
>
>
>

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