Re: Validation of the configuration (the sum of all loaded hivemodules)

23 Apr 2004 13:55:28 -0000

Curious - how would you specify the class-path in such a case? If you deploy the registry as part of an ear, a lot of magic is done by the container ... Or would the tool look at the ear (in this example) and process it accordingly to construct the correct path?

Johan

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:42:31 -0500, Luke Blanshard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm with Stefan here.  For complex environments, it would be a
real help to be able to run a little program that did a sanity
check on the classpath and configuration.  HiveMind has all the
information needed to do a simple validation of all services in a
registry, by forcing instantiation of all of them.

Luke

---- Original message ---- 
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 14:38:32 +0200
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Subject: RE: Validation of the configuration (the sum of all
loaded hivemodules) 
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Hmm, depends on the definition of unit test. I do not think that
this is what unit tests are for. I would call such tests integration
tests, which put all pieces together and test if they behave as
excpected. Although you might use JUnit for doing that.
With unit test I would like to test my "business" components, not
neccessarily the components construction done by HiveMind.

So, in principle you are right. With a good test coverage this would
not be necessary. But why not supporting it with a (optional)
validation? 

-----"Howard M. Lewis Ship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -----

To: <[email protected]>
From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23.04.2004 13:26
Subject: RE: Validation of the configuration (the sum of all loaded
hivemodules)

At the risk of sounding flip ... isn't this what unit tests are for?
There's a finite limit to what
HiveMind can, in fact, validate without actually executing the
application. 
HiveMind should make
your testing easier (or, in fact, possible) ... not replace the
need for 
testing.

--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
Creator, HiveMind
http://howardlewisship.com


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Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:49 AM
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Subject: Validation of the configuration (the sum of all
loaded hivemodules)



Hi,

we are using HiveMind as our component framework. Our
application is a 
almost typical client/server application.
As our application grows and grows we would like to have some
support for
validating the configuration. I would like to ask the
registry to validate:
- point all implementations to existing service points
- same for contributions/configuration points
- same for schema/schema-id
- same for .. (are there any others?)
- are all referenced classes available (not neccessarily load
them), so far
HiveMind is aware of knowing that some attribute relates to a
class. 

Sure I could parse myself all the hivemodules but ..
How about contributing?

Regards,
Stefan




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