Perhaps it would be easier to start over on java.net than continue on
SourceForge?

On 5/11/05, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think putting a link to the HiveMind Utilities project would be a
> wonderful idea.  Although, I would recommend changing the URL first.  Can
> you create a new SF project named hivemind-utils (actually hivemind-contrib
> might be more suitable, as it follows the usual naming convention that other
> projects use)?  Then, we can put a link from the main HM site that says,
> "Check out the contributions the HiveMind community has made!" or something.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean-Francois Poilpret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 9:40 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Announcement: The HiveTranse family grows again and changes
> name!
> 
> Hello Hugo,
> 
> Thank you very much for your enthusiastic support to HiveMind Utilities
> project!
> 
> Regarding integrating these modules into HiveMind, it was from the beginning
> of my involvement into HiveTranse (previous name of the HiveMind Utilities,
> which essentially focused on HM-Hibernate integration) that for licensing
> reasons, HiveTranse could not be integrated into HiveMind distribution. At
> this time (I think it must be September or October last year), some long
> discussion occurred to determine that any library that depends on Hibernate
> (LGPL license) could not be hosted on the Apache site. This is also at that
> time that Howard suggested that I create a project on SF or some other OSS
> repository. That I did a few months later (the time to make the first
> hivetranse contribution cleaner).
> 
> Now I believe that, in the list of all libraries that HiveMind Utilities
> depend on globally, probably Hibernate must be the only one to have this
> licensing problem. In HM Utilities, only one module explicitely depends on
> Hibernate, this is hivetranse.hibernate (plus the example.hibernate module
> of course). So it would still be possible to consider integration of a part
> of HM Utilities into HM distribution. I am quite open on this point.
> 
> One more thing: some time ago (beginning January I believe), Howard had also
> said it seemed to him a good idea to have some external repository of
> general utility HM modules.
> 
> Maybe one simple way to integrate could be as simple as putting a link to
> the HM Utilities SF project (or the project web home which is more
> "personalized" than the generic SF web interface) from the HiveMind site.
> 
> Cheers
> 
>         Jean-Francois Poilpret, HiveMind Utilities team
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 4:28 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Announcement: The HiveTranse family grows again and changes
> name!
> 
> First of all, congratulations on the great work you've donne with
> HiveMind Utilities. If it wasn't for these project i think i wouldn't
> have made the Spring to Hivemind migration i did.
> 
> Having said this, i just couldn't help thinking while i found the
> classes in this module more and more useful that they should be part of
> hivemind itself, and not a separate project. I think this would great
> both for hivemind and utilities. Utilities would have more visibility,
> therefore more support from the community and hivemind itself would be a
> more complete and easy to use framework out-of-the-box.
> 
> What are your thoughts about this ?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Hugo
> 
> Jean-Francois Poilpret wrote:
> > Dear HiveMind users,
> >
> > I am glad to announce (after a long silent period) the new release
> > 0.4.0
> of
> > HiveTranse on SourceForge.
> >
> > Now the project has changed name into "HiveMind Utilities" but the URL
> have
> > not changed however.
> > This name change is due to the fact that the project now hosts a bunch
> > of various utilities dedicated to applications built with HiveMind,
> > and is
> not
> > just limited to transaction management.
> >
> > It must be noted that this release is still working with HiveMind 1.0
> only.
> > It will probably be the last release to work with HM1.0, the next
> > release should be a port to HM1.1 (but lately I did not have much time
> > to play
> with
> > the latest HM1.1 beta however...)
> >
> > The original SourceForge announcement is at the end of this mail.
> >
> > Please do not hesitate to give a try to the various modules provided
> > and
> to
> > comment on these.
> >
> > In 1-2 weeks time, I hope I will release a pre-version of HiveBoard
> > (also
> on
> > SourceForge), a client/server shared whiteboard system based on
> > HiveMind (and HiveMind Utilities of course). This could be a good way
> > to get
> quickly
> > started with the possibilities of HiveMind Utilities modules.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >       Jean-Francois Poilpret
> >
> > Announcement on SourceForge:
> >       The HiveTranse family grows again and changes name!
> >
> > At the occasion of 0.4.0 release, the HiveTranse project team is glad
> > to announce several modifications into the project.
> >
> > First, due to its wider scope, the HiveTranse project is now renamed
> > "HiveMind Utilities", however the name code on SourceForge still
> > remains "hivetranse".
> >
> > In release 0.4.0, the HiveMind Utilities project has had the following
> > modifications:
> > - refactoring of hivetranse.utils module into hiveutils module and
> renaming
> > of packages in this module (net.sourceforge.hivetranse) to
> > net.sourceforge.hiveutils.
> > - removal of web.utils module, which content has been moved to
> > hiveutils module.
> > - new features added to hiveutils module, in particular a new
> ObjectBuilder
> > service that can create and cache any kind of objects, and inject
> > dependencies into them (can be seen as a hivemind.BuilderFactory for a
> wide
> > range of objects (each such object is defined in a configuration point
> > in order to ease usage of this feature).
> > - renaming of hivetranse.transaction module to hivetranse.core. No
> > package has been renamed however.
> > - creation of new hiveevents module.
> > - creation of new hivegui module.
> >
> > To summarize, HiveMind Utilities project, as of release 0.4.0,
> > contains
> the
> > following modules:
> > - hiveutils: set of useful classes and services for HiveMind-based
> > applications
> > - hivetranse.core: advanced generic transaction management framework
> > - hivetranse.jdbc: support for JDBC persistence layer in your DAOs
> > - hivetranse.hibernate: support for Hibernate persistence layer in
> > your
> DAOs
> > - hivetranse.ibatis: support for iBATIS SqlMaps persistence layer in
> > your DAOs
> > - hivelock.core, hivelock.shared, hivelock.default: support for
> > security management (authentication, authorization, stateful services)
> > - hiveremoting.caucho: "Web Services" support for your HiveMind
> > services, through Caucho's hessian and burlap protocols (over http).
> > - hiveevents: event notification service
> >
> > For more information on HiveMind Utilities project:
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/hivetranse/
> >
> > The HiveMind Utilities team
> 
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