Aids and other diesease are actually control factors in the Human genetic
pool.(Read on till the end)

It seems some are confused of the concept of disease in living things.In the
Natural world, a species will reach equilibrium with it surroundings,a
species number will remain within a limit which the environment can
support.This control is provided by basicly by two factors predatory animals
and food supply.

But in human terms the variables of predator has become almost non
existent.There is almost no other species that control our population and
food production has made it possible for the human species to expand in
numbers uncontrolled,although the is limited ammount of carbon mass in earth
which will end this soon and food production cannot be increased anymore.

In human terms the variable of disease and self predation(war,murder and
abortion has direct realtionship with population,higher population means
higher ammount of Human killings) has contributed a significant ammount of
human population control.One cannot see diesease as a bad thing
completely,although a loss of of a loved one is a sad thing,one has to
accept that is the order of the living world in its natural state.To alter
the natural state of the living world will bring unpredictable effefcts to
our Biosphere(Planet Earth).

Below is an example of human population self control in the simplest
manner.We can observe two human beings arguing who is more accurate.If this
argument were left unchecked it would in time blow up to become one killing
the other.The more stronger and intellegent one will be able to remove the
weaker one and take over his position in society.One sole detrimenatal
factor will be which one has more acess to Money.The one who has acess to more money will be able to bully the one with less acess to money.Eventhough the one having less acess to monetary funds is actually the honest and truthfull one.

The one having acess to more monetary fund will be able to buy more
sofisticted armenrment anf gather more followers than truthfull and just one who has less money. It is the order of the day in the Human World.Truth and Justice don't count,just how much money you have.
 
 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thursday, 2 December 1999 2:30
>Subject: Re: [sangkancil] Which Pit Did Louis Joseph Emerge From ?
>
>
>>Gau Tama wrote on Wednesday, December 01, 1999 11:03 PM:
>>
>>> Your right not to reply is respected and not disputed. But if the post
>was
>>> returned unread, again, I have to ask how do you know I was, as you say
>>> -"hostile and un-gautamic" and that my "vitriolic message was unworthy of
>>> reply" ? I will not hold you to this, however if you have indeed read my
>>> post and not as you have said, returned it unread.
>>
>>Of course, I read it. But I thought it only contained insults, so I sent it
>>back.
>>
>>> But my "insults" as you describe them has been dispensed in the spirit of
>>> advising you to have less of the ego writing on sangkancil; unadulterated
>>> advice based on our objective impressions of you which you have indicated
>>> earlier you are willing to accept.
>>
>>Well if that was so - and it did not appear to be so - I thank you for your
>>advise.
>>
>>> No offence has been taken and I have no malice towards you, especially as
>>> malice is not a feature of the enlightened egoless mind. It is good that
>>as
>>> you say, you have no malice intended in my direction; but I would urge
>you
>>> also to have none of the same malice when you address your other
>>listmembers
>>> on sangkancil; even if you feel that others may have maligned you.
>>
>>LJ says:
>>
>>Frankly, gau tama I bear no malice towards anyone. Although I am truly
>>pissed off with this one guy who keeps bugging me about the Alan Yap case.
>>Try some empathy and you might appreciate how one feels.
>>
>>> A tooth for a tooth; an eye for an eye; and very soon we will all be
>>blind;
>>> so once said another enlightened mind. As I have said before;
>provocations
>>> felt most by the ego never cease if the ego is in control. To demonstrate
>>> that; in using the title above for my post; the same you used for JKLim;
>>did
>>> your ego not feel the "vitriol" of my message ? Again, the provocations
>>can
>>> end with you.
>>
>>I automatically detect hostility when anyone brings up this Alan yap
>>business - do you blame me. I am not sure about JKLim, but he must have
>>started on this I suppose. Otherwise I am generally civil I think.
>>
>>> Sangkancil is our little nirvana where aspiring minds meet to be
>>> enlightened. This is what sets this community apart from the real world
>>> outside; a samsara where egos clash to establish their heirachy of might.
>>> There is no social status or caste system of the ego here in sangkancil;
>>the
>>> only requirement is to manifest the maturity of mind.
>>
>>You must be a little blind if you truly believe that SK is a little
>nirvana.
>>Come on, man it is just like any community - good, bad, ugly everything.
>>
>>> The old-timers on sangkancil do not wish to impose their seniority on
>>anyone
>>> nor are they keepers of any order; they are merely the preservers of the
>>> values that bind this community together; values among which are
>>exemplified
>>> by the humble mental agility of the little mousedeer in overcoming
>>arrogant
>>> bullying and uncompromising predators. These values are instinctively
>>> recognised and internalised by listmembers who share them; and they
>return
>>> again and again to affirm these values on sangkancil through their
>>postings.
>>
>>I think if you really beleived this you should have posted to me privately
>>and in more civil terms without plastering your posting with 20 'egos'.
>Many
>>have done so privately and I have appreciated their sincerity more. You
>>directed two postings to me both were hostile. Think about that.
>>
>>> Similarly the listmembers instinctively sense the entry of values alien
>to
>>> theirs; values that resemble the chaos of the ego-filled world outside.
>>That
>>> is why just as the Hard Rock Cafe require that we deposit all guns and
>>> nuclear weapons outside; the listmembers of sangkancil require that all
>>> coming in deposit their over-sized egos at the door. The occasional
>>> transgressors who sieve in and create mayhem are quickly found out and
>>shown
>>> the exit.
>>
>>You are too full of your little SK. The truth is different. Where were you
>>when they were witch-hunting me - not because of my ego - but because of
>>this anti-reformasi thing. Even now it so done. But you don't open your
>>mouth. But now you preach to me.
>>
>>> Yes, this is a members only club; members who subscribe to the list
>>> subscribe to the values of the club as shared by the other members.
>>> If a member wants to change the values of the club; he or she may present
>>> them and see if they are well received. If they are rejected; and if they
>>> are not happy with this community, the member can seek other online
>>> communities elsewhere or start one with its own set of values. (As a
>>> prolific writer, you may very well want to start a community of your own,
>>> and why not, Bala might even sponsor your efforts but then you would have
>>to
>>> deal with all manner of usurpers to your own set of values)
>>
>>I am quite happy with SK, truly. The true SK - which in my view has nothing
>>to do with what you say it is. As to Bala's sponsorship, thanks but no
>>thanks.
>>>
>>> The Rules of the Road, the Panchayat are only the explicit formal forms
>of
>>> the internal intrinsic values that help the listmember himself or herself
>>> tell if what they post is right or wrong; good or bad. As Robert M Pirsig
>>> prefaces in his Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry
>Into
>>> Values;  "And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good - Need we ask
>>> anyone to tell us these things ?"
>>
>>OK
>>
>>
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