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> ---forwarded message----
> From: Zaity Kamarulzaman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> From: "LP Zaayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Fwd: FW: Truth About MAxis Free Internet
> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 01:47:57 GMT
>
>
>   Maxis is giving free internet and claims that we only have to
>   pay for the connection charges of 3 cents. Is it really free? We all
know
>   that local calls are charged at 3 cents per min.1511 and 1515 are
>   dedicated  internet lines and get a special rate of 1 cent per  minute.
>
>   Check out the charges of the following ISP's from  what we know:
>
>    TMNET : 2.5 cents per min
>    JARING : 2.5 cents
>    MAXIS : 3.0 cents
>    MAXIS : 2.5 cents (for Maxis subscribers)
>
>   Not much difference, eh?
>
>   Let's break down the REAL charges  :
>
>    TMNET : 1.0 cent to Telekom + 1.5 cents to TMNet/Jaring = 2.5 cents
>    JARING : 1.0 cent to Telekom + 1.5 cents to TMnet/Jaring = 2.5 cents
>    MAXIS : 1.0  cent to Telekom + 2.0 cents to Maxis  = 3.0 cents.
>
>   Say what?
>
>   Read on ..
>
>   MAXIS obviously gets more than what TM & Jaring
>   gets. Should we  bother?
>
>   Yes and No.
>
>   This is a little complicated. MAXIS and Telekom had
>   a prior  agreement for  the provision of VOICE lines to
>   Maxis at a reduced rate of 1 cent per minute.  What MAXIS did later was
to
> use
>   those VOICE lines for  internet access. Clearly these are not what those
>   583**** and all the other numbers are for - they are supposed to be
> carrying  VOICE calls and not DATA calls. Telekom gave those superior
rates
> because
>   VOICE calls are  usually shorter in duration and hence they would make
> money off calls which last 3 minutes or less.  More importantly, because
of
> the very nature of
> VOICE calls, Telekom didn't  provide for a very wide bandwith and right
now
> Telekom doesn't like it very much.
>
>   What does this mean to you and me?
>
>   For starters, notice how difficult it is to log in  at night? Even with
>   three alternative numbers? Why? No bandwith since  they are supposed
>   to be carrying voice data. Who gets a raw deal?  TMNet, Jaring and
>   Telekom who spent money on ISP related development  but get less. MAXIS
is
>   merely piggy backing on the generosity of Telekom  who originally
provided
>   them with cheap VOICE lines but used it for  internet access.
>   Obviously, sooner or later the network would be  unable to support the
>   number  of MAXIS subsribers. MAXIS then would presumably
>   have to negotiate with  Telekom for provision of more lines. But you can
>   bet your a** that Telekom  will not be charging them at 1 cent anymore.
>
>   BUT to me all that is irrelevant. What irks me are  two things :
>
>   1. MAXIS made me believe that I am paying 3 cents
>   connection  charges to Telekom when it is NOT TRUE. It is
> MAXIS  who earn two cents. WE  ARE PAYING 2 cents to MAXIS for every
minute
> we
>   surf. Is that really free  surfing then??
>
>   2. They paint themselves as the innovative and  pioneering ISP who
>   gives free accounts when in fact they are mere  opportunist who
>   capitalised on an agreement which was signed with  Telekom but for
> different
>   things.
>
>   Conclusion? If you are already a subscriber to
> the  Real ISP's, stick  to them since your bottom line phone bill will be
>   cheaper. If you  don't - well - MAXIS costs slightly more and it
>   saves you the hassle of  form  filling.
>
>   And when you hear those self serving ads - "nothing  comes for  free
now"
> - well you know they are damn right.
> They  earn two cents for  every  minute and the irony is that TMNET and
> JARING now  appear to be the "old
>   fashioned" ISP's who charge for registration and  monthly fees.
> MAXIS doesnt  need all that - why should they? They are already  earning
> approximately  16.6% more than Jaring and TMNet with this  arrangment!
>
>   And they have the gall to parade themselves as the  free ISP  provider!!
>
>   This is public deceit and is totally unnaceptable!!


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