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          PAS : KE ARAH PEMERINTAHAN ISLAM YANG ADIL
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TALIPAO, Sulu--Galib Andang was
                only 10 years old when he carried a gun
                as a recruit of the Moro National
                Liberation Front. 

                He once received a bullet in the chest from a                          
       government gun... one of the
                five known leaders of Abu Sayyaf gunmen...

                This interview took place somewhere in Bandang,                        
         Talipao, near the jungle lair where the hostages                 await the 
outcome of talks
                between the government and their captors. 

                Excerpts: 

                Q: Why did you organize this movement? 

                A: We organized this movement known as                     Al-Harakatul
                Islamiya because this name, Abu Sayyaf, is                  simply the 
name or
                nickname of (slain Abu Sayyaf leader) Ustadz                 Aburajak
                Janjalani (the brother of Khaddafy Janjalani,                          
        the Basilan-based Abu Sayyaf head). 

                The name of this organization that is struggling                  in 
the path of
                Allah here in our homeland is called                  Al-Harakatul al 
Islamiya,
                which translated into English is ''Islamic                 Movement'' 
. . . 

                We founded this because we want our land to be                  
governed by
                the laws of the (Koran) and the Hadis (teachings                  of 
the
                Prophet), insha'llah (may God grant it). 

                Q: Do you get support from other countries? 

                A: We are self-reliant. Well, in the past, our                 elders 
(in the Moro
                National Liberation Front) received assistance                 from 
countries
                like Libya, Malaysia, Portugal. But at this                 time, 
there is none.
                There is only one:  Osama bin Laden. 

                Q: What is your objective? 

                A: If what we are asking for--an independent                 Islamic 
state--can
                be given to us, our race will govern in                  Mindanao; we 
will be
                triumphant and free; and the laws that Allah                 wants 
will reign.
                We have no other objective. 

                Q: All over Mindanao, not just in Sulu? 

                A: All over Mindanao. However, this can be                  discussed 
and
                negotiated. (Note: The government has rejected                  the 
demand for
                an independent Islamic state in Mindanao,                  although it 
has
                raised the possibility of expanded Muslim                  autonomy.) 

                Not for ransom? 

                Q: Is that your objective in abducting these                  people 
from
                Sipadan? 

                A: Yes, that is our objective. We are not like                  the 
(kidnapping)
                syndicates in Manila. Our objective is none                 other than 
that. We
                do not intend to be rich or to be praised and be                 
famous. 

                We just want to free ourselves from our duty and                  
obligation, so
                that generations to come will not blame us in                 the name 
of Allah
                for failing to comply with the teachings of our                  
religion. 

                Q: Do you belong to the same movement as those                  in 
Basilan? 

                A: There is only one Al-Harakatul Islamiya, only                 one. 
The only
                difference is that some are in Basilan, in                  Sarangani, 
in
                Zamboanga del Sur, Zamboanga del Norte,                 Tawi-Tawi, 
Sulu and
                in other places like General Santos, and even in                 
Manila.
               
                Q: In your view, is there a possibility that you                 and 
the
                government can come to an agreement? 

                A: As of now, the government is finding ways to                  
resolve this.
                We are doing the same. These things are still                 under 
negotiation.

                                German hostage

                Q: How about the hostages, can you not find it                  in 
your heart to
                release the ailing woman (German hostage Renate                 
Wallert,
                who was earlier reported to be suffering from                 
hypertension)? 

                A: That will have to be discussed. All problems                 have a 
solution.
                But we have to discuss this face to face with                  the 
representatives
                of the government. The government has to grant                 us what 
we are
                demanding. But where money is concerned, we have                 not 
discussed this. 

                But we have to discuss this matter. The                 government of 
thePhilippines breaks its                 promises. 

                Q: But have you expressed (to the government                   
negotiators)
                what needs to be done for you to release the                      
ailing German hostage? 

                A: We have discussed confidential matters, but                  it 
seems they cannot comply with these. 

                Q: (Asked by German TV journalist) Is it                  possible, as 
a matter
                of pity and kindness, for you to release the old                  
German woman?
                It would be easier for people in Germany, for                  
example, to
                understand you and your cause if they see that                 you are 
also
                capable of pity for an old woman. 

                A: What is your purpose--are you a negotiator,                  or a 
member of
                the press? Okay, if he is with the press, tell                    him 
to just do his
                work, to interview and not to demand. But if he                 want 
to be a
                negotiator, then he should not work with media.                 He 
should ask
                authorization from Sec. (Robert) Aventajado or                   his 
government
                (to negotiate). 

                                  $1 million

                Q: Suppose you were offered $1 million, would                 you be 
willing to
                release some of the hostages? 

                A: We have not discussed any demands for money. 

                Q: How long do you think it will take to resolve                 this 
hostage
                crisis? 

                A: As of now, we are still negotiating and                 trying to 
come to an
                understanding. We are discussing and looking for                 a 
resolution
                that will be best for all concerned. 

                Q: Can you guarantee the safety of the hostages? 

                A: This should be asked of the Philippine                  government. 
If they
                will not order the military to move, (yes), but                    if 
there will be
                military operations, then from our experience,                  we 
have to fight. 

                Q: So what you are saying is that the fate of                 the 
hostages
                depends on what the government decides? 

                A: Yes.  

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