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Wa'alaikumsalam and salam kembali,
Sdr Fakhrull, have been following your posting for quite some time...,
sometimes it's a bit too blur on what you want to achieve...
but economically, your statement below makes no sense whatsoever.. Pls gimme
more detail.. I am not questioning the rational of the government takeover,
but the "how" it's being taken over.
for eg, MAS shares, TR and his directors where laughing aloud after signing
the sales of the shares, (don't ask me how I know, you can check your own
source on this)(after losing control of a company, usually a businessman
would not be too happy)... Anyway, who are still making money from MAS?
Cargo, Catering, and later the IT outsource(Trifinity) will exclusively be
owned by the same guy..
I can probably go on with the largest IPO plan for TIMEdotCom, and who will
be bailing them out when their shares are undersubsribe.. butmaybe later..
Think Fakhrul, when Petronas increases their oil production , the oil
reserves will not be there for our children to enjoy. OK till later
Wassalam
>From: fakhrull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Tiang Jawi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: H-Net* Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election
>Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2001 11:26:00 +0800
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>Assalamualaikum..
>Kalau ekonomi kita terus lingkup lagi merbahaya pada generasi dan mungkin
>generasi akan datang bukan takat tiada ekonomi malah Negara nya sendiri....
>telan mati mak luah mati bapak adalah delima yang terpaksa juga seorang
>pemimpin
>tempuhi dengan fikiran tajam dan amat halus......Kalau generasi dulu
>menggadai
>nyawa untuk negara apasalahnya kita pinjamkan KWSP dan mereka kan bayar
>balik
>nanti bila semuanya ok semula...demi untuk tanah air....Untuk mejanakan
>balik
>ekonomi yang tenat dana yang terhad terpaksalah di agih pada syarikat
>gergasi
>yang mana bila gergasi ini stabil keuntungannya pula diagih ke syarikat
>sederhana dan kecil..dalam keadaan untuk menyelamat ekonomi negara kerajaan
>perlu mengenal pasti S Gergasi yang mampu manfaatkan dana yang amat terhad
>tidak menjadi sia sia
>jesteru itu kedapatan lah peruntukan itu nampak diagihkan pada yang
>dikatakan
>Kroni..kroninya sahaja.......Jalan yang telus bukan mudah hendak
>dilaksanakan
>kadang kadang diluar dugaan kita....Untk menyelamat ekonomi negara yang
>diserang bukan mudah tak terfikir oleh kita sebenarnya...APASALAHnya kita
>bantu
>dengan apa yang terdaya....Bila ekonomi kita lingkup yang ketara menjadi
>mangsa
>ialah bangsa melayu yang amat miskin..bayangkanlah kebimbangan kerajaan
>untuk
>menanganinya dengan cara yang amat telus....Dan ingat Kerajaan bukan Tuhan
>mereka juga mumbuat kesilapan yang mereka sendiri tidak mahu untuk
>itu.......bersabar dan berdoalah....Wassalam...
>
>Tiang Jawi wrote:
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> > Assalamualaikum w.w.
> >
> > Barulah terserlah mengapa proses penebusan semula syarikat-syarikat
>besar
> > yang di ambang muflis dilakukan dengan meluas. Senaraikan sahaja
>bermula
> > dari: Renong dan keluarga; MAS; DRB-Hicom (Proton, LRT, STAR, Intra kota
> > dll); Indah Water dll. Setelah Petronas, Tabung Amanah Pencen(?), KWSP,
> > Tabung Amanah Angkatan Tentera habislah dana yang boleh diusik. LUTH
>juga
> > cuba diusik. Tapi dikhuatiri penyimpan bertindakbalas dengan
>mengeluarkan
> > simpanan, tindakan ini dibekukan seketika. Akhirnya untuk mendapatkan
>wang
> > jual lah bon. Bon ini tak lebih dari hutang. Bezanya boleh diperolehi
> > sedikit sedikit dari berbagai sumber. Yang nyanya generasi kan
>datanglah
> > yang membayarnya.
> >
> > Nilainya, campurkan sahaja. Untuk MAS dan Sistem pengangkutan KL sahaja
> > masing-masing RM 1.7 + 2.1 bilion.
> >
> > Beginilah negara ku Malaysia tercinta.
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: Concorde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, anwar
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: H-Net* Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election
> > Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:57:35 +0800
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> > http://www.lycos-asia.com/my/asia/malaysia/001228044511.bb2cgexy.html
> >
> > Mahathir confirms he will quit before next election
> >
> > KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 28 (AFP) - 12:45 - Malaysia's veteran Prime Minister
> > Mahathir Mohamad has again said he will step down before the next
> > general
> > election due by November 2004, Bernama news agency reported Thursday.
> >
> > Mahathir, who has been in power since 1981, was vague about the timing
> > but
> > added: "The succession is determined."
> >
> > His current preferred successor is his deputy premier, Abdullah Ahmad
> > Badawi.
> >
> > Mahathir, in an interview with the official agency Tuesday, was asked if
> > he
> > was committed to handing over the premiership just before the next
> > election.
> >
> > "Whether just before or long before, it will depend on our assessment,"
> > he
> > said.
> >
> > Soon after the last election in November 1999, Mahathir said this would
> > be
> > his last term in office. He turned 75 on December 20.
> >
> > Elections must be held every five years but can be held at any time
> > before
> > the term expires.
> >
> > "The reason why I keep people guessing is that any hint I make about my
> > stepping down or whatever, it will have an effect on the economy and the
> >
> > market," he said.
> >
> > "And I don't want my personal choice to have an effect on the market."
> >
> > Asked by Bernama if he were irreplaceable, Mahathir said: "No, I don't
> > think so (because) each prime minister is different from the other, his
> > way
> > of working, his style and his delivery."
> >
> > He said his National Front coalition and its largest party, the United
> > Malays National Organisation (UMNO), would continue the same policies,
> > "perhaps with some slight improvements here and there but basically they
> >
> > will be the same policies."
> >
> > Mahathir's sacking in September 1998 of his popular deputy Anwar
> > Ibrahim,
> > and Anwar's subsequent jailing for abuse of power and sodomy, alienated
> > many of UMNO's traditional voters in the Malay community.
> >
> > The party lost 22 seats in the last election.
> >
> > Mahathir added: "I really feel that whether we like it or not, one day I
> >
> > have to go. If I drop dead, I won't be around. Somebody has to take over
> >
> > and we have prepared our party for that eventuality.
> >
> > "If I go, there are people who will take over from me. The succession is
> >
> > determined."
> >
> > Mahathir had a quadruple heart bypass operation in 1989 but appears to
> > be
> > fit and follows a punishing daily schedule.
> >
> > He said he wanted to continue serving UMNO even after he retires.
> >
> > "Maybe if they need to ask me any question about anything, I will be
> > prepared to answer. If they want me to do some work ... perhaps I will
> > do
> > it if I can," he said.
> >
> > Mahathir also denied opposition claims that he was a dictator, saying
> > his
> > cabinet debated his ideas and could choose whether to accept them.
> >
> > __________
> >
> > http://www.bernama.com/bernama/general/ge2812_5.htm
> >
> > December 28 , 2000 13:33PM
> >
> > DR MAHATHIR TO CONTRIBUTE TO UMNO EVEN AFTER RETIREMENT
> > By E.Sivabalan
> >
> > KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 28 (Bernama) -- Datuk Seri Dr Mahathir Mohamad has
> > pledged to continue serving Umno even after he retires as Prime Minister
> >
> > through his ideas and knowledge gained during his years in service to
> > the
> > country and the party.
> > "Even if I am not the Prime Minister, whatever knowledge that I have and
> >
> > that I can contribute to the party, I will do so," the Umno president
> > said.
> >
> > Dr Mahathir said this when asked if he was committed to handing over the
> >
> > Prime Minister's post to his successor just before the next general
> > election.
> >
> > "Whether just before or long before, it will depend on our assessment,"
> > said.
> >
> > Dr Mahathir was reported as saying just after the 1999 general election
> > that this would be his last term in office. Dr Mahathir became Prime
> > Minister in 1981, succeeding Tun Hussein Onn.
> >
> > Speaking in an exclusive year-end interview with Bernama at the Prime
> > Minister's Department in Putrajaya last Tuesday, Dr Mahathir however
> > said
> > he "cannot just desert the party and leave just like that."
> >
> > Dr Mahathir said he was made the Prime Minister and Umno president with
> > the
> > support of the party and when the time came for him to leave office, he
> > would still have to continue supporting the party.
> >
> > Asked in what capacity he would like to serve the party, he said it
> > could
> > be in whatever form.
> >
> > "May be if they need to ask me any question about anything, I will be
> > prepared to answer. If they want me to do some work.... perhaps I will
> > do
> > it if I can," he said.
> >
> > However, Dr Mahathir did not say when he would hand over the premiership
> > to
> > his successor and he gave his reasons. "The reason why I keep people
> > guessing is that any hint I make about my stepping down or whatever, it
> > will have an effect on the economy and the market.
> >
> > And I don't want my personal choice to have an effect on the market," he
> >
> > said.
> >
> > On suggestions that his departure would leave the country without
> > someone
> > with his kind of capabilities and calibre, Dr Mahathir said: "No, I
> > don't
> > think so (because) each Prime Minister is different from the other, his
> > way
> > of working, his style and his delivery."
> >
> > Dr Mahathir said it did not mean that if he was no longer the Prime
> > Minister, everything would grind to a halt.
> >
> > "Things will be done but they will be done differently," he said.
> >
> > He said the only thing that would be a common feature was that the
> > Barisan
> > Nasional and Umno would continue with the same kind of policies,
> > "perhaps
> > with some slight improvements here and there but basically they will be
> > the
> > same policies."
> >
> > Dr Mahathir said he found it quite strange that on the one hand certain
> > groups seemed to condemn him as a dictator and on the other hand, these
> > groups claimed that when he retired there would be no one else to
> > replace
> > him.
> >
> > "So there is a contradictory view on this," he said.
> >
> > He said whether one liked it or not, one day he had to go. "If I drop
> > dead
> > I won't be around, somebody has to take over," he said.
> >
> > Dr Mahathir said the present leadership had prepared Umno for that
> > eventuality.
> >
> > "If I go, then there are people who will take over from me. The
> > succession
> > is determined," he said.
> >
> > On Opposition claims that he was making decisions for the country
> > without
> > consulting his Cabinet Ministers, Dr Mahathir said it was not true.
> >
> > "It is a comment arising from wrong perception. The Opposition has
> > always
> > tried to label me as a dictator, as someone who decides and does not
> > care
> > about the views of others."
> >
> > Dr Mahathir said as Prime Minister, he put forward ideas but it was up
> > to
> > the Cabinet to decide whether to accept them or not.
> >
> > "If the Cabinet does not accept, then of course the idea will not see
> > the
> > light of day and these things people never know. They only see decisions
> >
> > that are agreed to by the Cabinet.
> >
> > He said that at all Cabinet meetings, the ministers would give their
> > views
> > and make suggestions and they would then be debated to see if the
> > suggestions were workable.
> >
> > "There are processes within the Cabinet room and as you know Cabinet
> > meetings are secret. We don't go and film Cabinet sessions. But I can
> > assure you that everybody does speak and sometimes I tell them we don't
> > have enough time."
> >
> > "So, to assume that I am the only one laying down the law is wrong and
> > the
> > (opposition) comment is based on wrong assumption," Dr Mahathir added.
> >
> > --BERNAMA
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