I felt the same, having thought Knoda was going to be my answer, and finding
Kexi to not do what I wanted and it had other problems. However I found a
solution without resorting to a Access an a VM. I too have Apache running, on
my backend server, alongside the mysql database, so, I found a web based GUI
called Xataface that is configurable by simple text files. Just a
possibility ...
From: Sherwood Botsford
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 10:42 PM
To: discussing hk_classes & knoda
Subject: Re: [Hk-classes-discuss] [Bug 787688] Re: knoda rejected and kexi
heavily bugged
As someone who has been burned before with data incompatibility, I will no
longer use FOSS that doesn't have an active support community. I'm not enough
of a programmer to fix the problems.
In general any software package that depends on a single person is a risk. If
that person gets hit by a truck, or just loses interest, and if the program is
brittle enough that it breaks with an OS upgrade, then I'm stuck. I have to
revert to a previous OS level (Not trivial), salvage my data, and find a new
program to use.
Unfortunately there is no good equivalent to MS access that meets my needs at
this time. So at present I run a VM with windows XP and Access just so that I
can do quick and dirty reports from a simple (9 table) relational database.
Generally the FOSS graphical programs have been a disappointment. Gimp is
clunky, hard to use, and missing too much of photoshop. OpenOffice is
impossibly slow, and accurately reproduces MS bugs in numbering and styles.
Abiword has weird printing bugs, and awful documentation. Digikam comes close,
but I've moved to Aperture now, just for it's better handling of tags.
Firefox got it right -- but I'm refusing to upgrade to 4 until tabkit works at
that level.
On the otherhand, I use Apache for serving my web pages. I use perl daily. I
use MultiMarkdown, and Text Toolkit 2. I'm quite comfortable with the
commandline generally.
Not sure why the graphical interface is so hard to do well. I think it's
mostly because it's done backwards. The core program is written, then the
graphics are slapped on, then the interface is written, then the documentation
is written (maybe.) I suspect it should be almost the reverse: Write the
interface. Write the documentation. Write the hooks that tie the interface to
processing. Write the processing.
Respectfully,
Sherwood of Sherwood's Forests
Sherwood Botsford
Sherwood's Forests -- http://Sherwoods-Forests.com
780-848-2548
50042 Range Rd 31
Warburg, Alberta T0C 2T0
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Robert Leleu <[email protected]>
wrote:
Je la 11/06/2011 22:55-------- Origina mesaĝo-------- Jaroslaw Staniek
skribis (esperanto estas la unua internacia lingvo):
On 11 June 2011 10:08, robert leleu mailto:[email protected] wrote:
Je la 02/06/2011 22:31-------- Origina mesaĝo-------- Jaroslaw Staniek
skribis (esperanto estas la unua internacia lingvo):
On 2 June 2011 22:04, falcafmailto:[email protected] wrote:
Bonsoir,
I have the same problem ; I've tried kexi but without good result (unable to
import my mysql base.
Knoda work ; isn't possible to get it again in ubuntu ?
If I am not mistaken, one of the requirements is that the application
has to be maintained...
Not being programmer I am not sure of the meaning of "maintained". Is it
to prepare the relevant files to be included in a PPA ?
At the time being I'm aware of a debian whose address is
http://mirror.network.kz/ubuntu/pool/universe/h/hk-classes/libhk-classes15ldbl_0.8.3-7build1_i386.deb
and I hope this is a basis for someone to "maintain" Knoda in Ubuntu, at
less as long as Kexi doesn't work properly.
I have no notes regarding quality of knoda deployment. By maintenance
I mean the software of course not the deployment. The most recent
version of KNoda is 0.8.3 which appears to be released around December
2006 and is for KDE 3. As someone who values FOSS competition I am
rather sorry about this fact.
Please also look at the comments at [1].
Lack of update for knoda is of course no excuse for Kexi's own issues
on Ubuntu and I am
looking forward to see opportunities to cooperate more closely with
the Ubuntu team.
To be more constructive: If someone is interested in preparing Kexi
3.0 deployment in advance before Calligra 3.0 alpha is announced, we
have regular Calligra source code snapshots [2], and these include
Kexi. Updates notes for deployment are always available at
https://projects.kde.org/projects/calligra/repository/revisions/master/entry/README.PACKAGERS
[1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.hk-classes.general/317
[2] 1st snapshot:
http://www.calligra-suite.org/news/calligra-announces-first-snapshot-release/
Thanks for your fast answer. I took a look atcalligra-announces, and I deduced
that we have new versions (of Kexi in particular) for Ubuntu 12.04.
That's why I put a copy of this message in HK classes discussion list.
With thanks to all who work on the project.
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