thank you, now I can be sure that it is ok to use web services, and with Hl7
2.6 feature to send user authorization info, I can take away WS-Security,
this way getting integration with other platforms better.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:56 PM, James Agnew <ja...@jamesagnew.ca> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I'll just throw in 2 cents from my perspective, although I'm mostly just
> repeating the good information already presented. :)
>
> By far the most common way of encrypting messages as they flow across a
> stream (here in Canada at least) is by passing them through an encrypted VPN
> tunnel. That way they are encrypted when they leave the local network, but
> the end systems don't need to know anything about the encryption.
>
> HAPI supports SSL connections (you just need to pass in a SecureSocket of
> your own creation), and I've heard a few reports of people doing this
> successfully, but in my experience there aren't too many applications out
> there that support this.
>
> The approach that is starting to gain a lot of traction here (and it sounds
> like in Australia as well!) is sending HL7 v2 messages as payloads in a SOAP
> message, often encrypted. This approach is more work to set up, but I really
> like it for the ease of encryption and for the fact that you can send
> metadata along with the message.
>
> One final note, for sending user authentication information, it's probably
> worth mentioning that HL7 v2.6 added a UAC segment to most message types for
> this purpose. That information may or may not be helpful- I've never heard
> of anyone using it, but it's there, so someone must.
>
> Cheers,
> James
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Sharma, Niranjan K (GE Healthcare) <
> niranjan.sha...@med.ge.com> wrote:
>
>> You need to hook up your SSL sockets to an access management
>> engine..like this
>> http://www.sun.com/software/products/opensso_enterprise/index.xml
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this makes sense?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> -Niranjan.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Hablutzel Egoavil [mailto:hablutz...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:47 PM
>> *To:* hl7api-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [HAPI-devel] Fwd: HAPI and SSL
>>
>>
>>
>> thank you Niranjan, but what facities can I use to implement user
>> authorization? is the a hl7 specific message to manage authentication?
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Sharma, Niranjan K (GE Healthcare) <
>> niranjan.sha...@med.ge.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is a choice for you to excersize..implement ServerSocket call into
>> SSL socket . This is in TransportLayer domains.
>>
>> Have a look at it.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Hablutzel Egoavil [mailto:hablutz...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 05, 2009 10:34 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* hl7api-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>
>> *Subject:* [HAPI-devel] Fwd: HAPI and SSL
>>
>>
>>
>> I can realize that some of you are using web services for message
>> transportation, but... is this the best??
>> doesn't it add an unnecesary level of complexity? I can realize that HAPI
>> has a message transport implementation. I would like to know all
>> alternatives before getting into production at the hospital I work for 1
>>
>> 1. www.hndac.gob.pe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Erik Gfesser <erik_gfes...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Please note that the WS-Security standard covers message layer security,
>> while SSL (actually TLS) covers transport layer security. The former
>> encrypts individual messages as they are sent across the wire, while the
>> latter encrypts all messages sent across the wire. The type of security
>> implemented will depend on your needs; it's not necessarily required to
>> implement both types of security.
>>
>> Thanks, Erik
>>
>> --- On Sat, 10/3/09, Shirren <shirren.premara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Shirren <shirren.premara...@gmail.com>
>>
>> > Subject: Re: [HAPI-devel] HAPI and SSL
>>
>> > To: "Jaime Hablutzel Egoavil" <hablutz...@gmail.com>,
>> hl7api-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 8:25 AM
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Jamie,
>> >
>> > We do the same
>> > thing, we have designed a
>> > series of web service wrappers over the HL7 messages and
>> > events, it is at this
>> > level that we apply security which includes WS-Security and
>> > SSL, this will
>> > become part of the published standard in
>> > Australia.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Shirren
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message
>> > -----
>> > From:
>> > Jaime
>> > Hablutzel Egoavil
>> > To: hl7api-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent: Saturday,
>> > October 03, 2009 6:37
>> > AM
>> > Subject: Re:
>> > [HAPI-devel] HAPI and
>> > SSL
>> >
>> > I'm just getting inside HL7 for the hospital
>> > where I work, and
>> > for now I have considered using a web service as a
>> > wrapper (String
>> > method(String)) for hl7 messages and apply security at
>> > web service level using
>> > axis2, WS security, SSL, but I wonder what is the best
>> > solution, for clients
>> > and servers talking HL7...
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:37 AM,
>> > Mike DiChiappari <mdichiapp...@cardeatech.com>
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Is anyone using HAPI with
>> > SSL?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Mike
>> >
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