I have used Symphony before, and I hated it. They claim to be the fastest 
engine around, but their scripting environment sucks. Absolutely the worst IDE 
I have ever used in my life, and I refuse to touch it. :-) It couldn't even 
copy/paste correctly.

That IS basically what I want, but that was a long time ago, before XML was 
king, and it seems like XSLT is a good way to go now. Frankly, what the 
Integration Engines do doesn't seem that difficult (says the man who has never 
coded one), and XSLT is very powerful. With a good set of example 
transformations, I believe a non-coder can put together an XSLT quite handily.

Now, I could be wrong in my belief (it has happened before), so I wanted to see 
some example XSLTs from someone who went the XML route. However, a list of 
decent transformation engines might be worth having, if anyone wants to name 
some they have liked using.

This conversation has veered from the subject title. Should I start a 
different, more aptly named thread?

> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]
> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 06:43:38 -0500
> Subject: RE: [HAPI-devel] Conversion between versions
> 
> Jake,
>   Based on what you describe, have you considered using an Integration 
> Engine? This would allow you to convert all your feeds into a "standard" 
> message which you could program to. I have seen/used this approach whenever 
> multiple feeds with various versions and each source with its own quirks.
> 
> Regards
> Raja
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Jake C [[email protected]]
> Sent: July 28, 2011 12:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [HAPI-devel] Conversion between versions
> 
> Gah! I thought I DID RTFM, but I didn't see the CanonicalModelClassFactory 
> example. :-/
> 
> One thing I am interested in is who is expected to perform the service 
> specified in an ORM, but there doesn't seem to be a place in the message 
> structure for it (I believe this is why the REF_I12 was created, but EMRs 
> don't seem to support it yet). I don't want to hard-code a placement for 
> that, because if an EMR includes it at all, it could be in PV1-7,9,52, or who 
> KNOWS where. I want to look for it in one place, and if a particular 
> application/facility puts it somewhere else, I can use some form of 
> transformation to move it to the place I'm looking for it.
> 
> I have seen other cases where things are just not quite standard, and instead 
> of having to hard-code an exception whenever we integrate with a new 
> application/facility, I can just create a new transformation and link it to 
> the application/facility.
> 
> I know that I could probably write a subclassed parser to do this, but I'd 
> rather not have to code-recompile-redeploy my app just because a new 
> integration was introduced. I would much rather configure something to do the 
> transformation.
> 
> I have seen other applications use XML and XSLT to do this, and I was 
> wondering if the HAPI community has done anything like this, and produced any 
> XSLT files for it.
> 
> ________________________________
> From: [email protected]
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:06:00 -0400
> Subject: Re: [HAPI-devel] Conversion between versions
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]
> 
> Hi Jake,
> 
> You'll find two techniques for dealing with multiple versions under "handling 
> multiple versions" here: http://hl7api.sourceforge.net/devbyexample.html
> 
> I'm not sure I understand your second question though. What type of 
> "handling" do you need to do?
> 
> Cheers,
> James
> 
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Jake C 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I see a few requests in the archive about how to convert messages between 
> different versions of HL7, but so far, no replies to any of them.
> 
> I have a similar need. I need to communicate with different applications, and 
> I will not be able to dictate which version of HL7 they use. I also do not 
> want to have to program to all the different versions of HL7. I would like to 
> be able to accept a message in any version of HL7, but only have to 
> manipulate a single version. For example, in my test application, I convert 
> to a ca.uhn.hl7v2.model.v26.message.ORU_R01, and get my Provider information 
> from ca.uhn.hl7v2.model.v26.datatype.XPN, and I don't want to have to write a 
> conversion method for all other versions, just 2.6.
> 
> Once I have THAT accomplished, I will also need to do some manipulation on a 
> per-application basis, and I was wondering if there was a "typical" way that 
> was accomplished.
> 
> One method I have heard of is to convert the message to XML and create a XSLT 
> for each application that does something "non-standard". Is that what people 
> using HAPI typically do? If so, does anyone have any example XSLT files?
> 
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