Hi Rafael, the messages seem correct.
IMO your system and the sender system might need to agree on the codes and have
some kind of table that tells you which codes are for batteries and which ones
are for individual results, but that's outside the messages. So in OBR-4 you
might use those codes and use the lookup table to know which are batteries and
which not. If you need that inside the messages you might use a Z segment or a
NTE associated with the OBR.
Hope that helps!
--
Kind regards,
Eng. Pablo Pazos Gutiérrez
http://cabolabs.com
From: jamesag...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:04:37 -0500
To: rsanvi...@fsoria.com
CC: hl7api-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; bomor...@fsoria.com
Subject: Re: [HAPI-devel] ORU^R01 Message: Battery and its testsdf
Hi Rafael,
(Other people please chime in too! I'm hardly a lab expert..)
One of the joys of HL7 v2 is that a lot of the standard is loose and subject to
interpretation, which means that often there isn't a right answer to how
something works in the specification, you need to understand how the
sender/receiver is using it.
This is one of those cases. Based on the samples you have provided it seems
like your interpretation is correct.. but really only the sender would know for
sure.
Cheers,
James
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:33 AM, <rsanvi...@fsoria.com> wrote:
Hi, I have received the next ORU^R01
message:
MSH|^~\&|MG|MG|LAB|LAB|20100127101236+0100||ORU^R01^ORU_R01|1234567890|P|2.5
PID|...
PV1|...
ORC|...
OBR|1|OP2|10101010|HEM^Hemograma^SISTEMA1|...
OBX|1|NM|HTIE^Hematíes^SISTEMA1||7.00|x10*6/uL|4.5
- 5.9|HH|||F|||20100127095652
OBX|2|NM|HGB^Hemoglobina^SISTEMA1||567567.0|g/dL|13.0
- 17.5|HH|||F|||20100127095652
OBX|3|NM|HTCO^Hematocrito^SISTEMA1||77.0|%|37.0
- 53.0|HH|||F|||20100127095728
OBX|4|NM|VCM^VCM^SISTEMA1||67.0|fl|80.0
- 100.0|LL|||F|||20100127095728
SPM|1|9018000088||^SANGRE PERIFERICA||||||||||||||20100127095625||Y||||||1
In this message, the OBR Segment contains
a Battery (HEM) and the tests have been added in OBX Segments.
In this case, the HEM Battery contains
4 tests (HTIE, HGB, HTCO and VCM).
I would like to know if this message
is a Standard HL7 Message.
At the moment, I have only received
tests in ORU^R01 messages.
In the next ORU^R01 message, I have
received a test (CLC00500) with two results (OBX.1 and OBX.2 segments):
MSH|^~\&|MG|MG|FSM|FSM|20141105132023+0100||ORU^R01^ORU_R01|LAB31415190023385|P|2.5
PID|...
PV1|...
ORC|...
OBR|1|PA5999171|20000002|CLC00500^Pla--Glucosa;
c.sust.(proc.)^SISTEMA1||||||CE||||||00010258960^ape1 ape2,
nombre||||5||||LAB|F|||||||admin^20141105132022+0100
OBX|1|NM|CLC00500^Pla--Glucosa;
c.sust.(proc.)^SISTEMA1||65|mg/dL||HH|||F|||20141105132022||admin|||20141105132022
OBX|2|ST|CLC00500^Pla--Glucosa;
c.sust.(proc.)^SISTEMA1|1|POSITIVO|||||||||20141105132022||admin
SPM|1|0120000002||3^Suero||||||||||||||20141105132010||Y||||||1
How could I to know when the OBR
Segment contains a Battery or a test?
My first idea is the next: if OBR.4.1
= OBX.3.1, then the OBR Segment contains a Test, else OBR Segment contains
a Battery. But this is a bad solution :(
Help me!
Best Regards.
Rafael.
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Para:
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Fecha:
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Asunto:
RE: [HAPI-devel] Parse only Segment
MSH
Thank you, Ian
I will develope your two options.
In the first option (using parser method
with the first segment only), How do I get the first segment in XML Format?
I would try to get the first segment
looking for the </MSH> value.
I will try the preparser option too,
proposed by our partner James Agner.
Best regards.
Rafael San Vidal.
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RE: [HAPI-devel] Parse
only Segment MSH
Ian Vowles
para:
rsanvi...@fsoria.com, hl7api-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Enviado: 08/05/2014 00:11
Recibido: 08/05/2014 09:10
Our team often finds itself
wanting to deal with individual segments. Segment constructors still require
something to base themselves on, so you seem to be required to do something
like this:
private
static ADT_A01 parent;
.
.
.
parent = new ADT_A01();
parent.initQuickstart("ADT", "A01", "P");
String message =
"MSH|^~\\&|SENDING-APP|SENDING-FAC|RECEIVING-APP|RECEIVING-FAC|20140508111155|SECURITY|ADT^A08|MESSAGE-CONTROL-ID|P|2.4|||AL|AL|AUS|ASCII|ENG|\r"
+ "MORE SEGMENTS GO HERE IN A REAL MESSAGE\r";
System.out.println("Message Control Id = " + getUID(message));
.
.
.
/**
*
Get MessageControlID
*
@param mensaje
*
@return MessageControlID
*/
public
static String getUID(String mensaje)
{
try
{
MSH msh = new MSH(parent,parent.getModelClassFactory());
if (mensaje.indexOf("\r")
> 0) {
msh.parse(mensaje.substring(0, mensaje.indexOf("\r")));
}
return msh.getMessageControlID().getValue();
}
catch (HL7Exception e) {}
return
null;
}
If anyone can show a simpler
way to create a segment from scratch, that would be most helpful.
To just get amongst the MSH
you could go for all string manipulation, but you have to worry about the
standard. You could do something like this:
/**
*
Get MessageControlID
*
@param mensaje
*
@return MessageControlID
*/
public
static String getUIDNoHapi(String mensaje)
{
if
(mensaje != null && mensaje.length() > 4 && mensaje.startsWith("MSH")
&& mensaje.indexOf("\r") > 0) {
String msh = mensaje.substring(0, mensaje.indexOf("\r"));
String fieldDel = mshsubstring(3, 4);
if ("|".equals(fieldDel)) {
fieldDel = "\\|";
}
String[] mshFields = msh.split(fieldDel);
return mshFields[9];
}
return
null;
}
There are traps in this code
if people start using non standard delimiters or send you very bad content.
The HAPI library is a much better to help you avoid such trouble.
Thanks
Ian
From: rsanvi...@fsoria.com [mailto:rsanvi...@fsoria.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 May 2014 6:22 PM
To: Ian Vowles; hl7api-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [HAPI-devel] Parse only Segment MSH
Hi,
In our source code, we parse the full message (from string data) to get
the MessageControlID value.
How can I get the MessageControlID value without parsing the full message
(Example: parsing only the MSH Segment)?
Note: I attach the "getUID" method to get this value.
Best regards.
Rafael.
import
ca.uhn.hl7v2.model.Message;
import
ca.uhn.hl7v2.model.v25.segment.MSH;
/**
* Get MessageControlID
* @param
mensaje
* @return
MessageControlID
*/
public
static
String getUID(String mensaje)
{
try
{
Parser parseador = new
GenericParser();
parseador.setValidationContext(new
NoValidation());
Message mensajeHAPI = parseador.parse(mensaje);
MSH segmentoHAPI_MSH = (MSH) mensajeHAPI.get(Parametros.MSH);
return
segmentoHAPI_MSH.getMessageControlID().getValue();
}
catch
(Exception e) {}
return
null;
}
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