I think this is the right list!
Since engine-knowledge etc. is a must 4 AntiCheat tools (it would be strange
to only catch signatures of known cheats when you have an modable engine)!
But I think VALVe won't do much, because it is pretty obvious that they
can't support or don't have the will to support CS 1.6 anymore (currently).
If VAC doesn't get updated for CS 1.6 then tools like CD are our only option
(actually I think s.o. at United Admins is leaking or has leaked
confidential information (this may happen in future again), also huge parts
of UA members seem to have lost interest in CD for CS 1.6 (there are only a
few active programers that do all the work).
I think a demo analyzing tool would be interesting.
It should be able to analyze 1st person demos and should also compare these
with an HLTV demo that shows the same match (because dem files can be
modified very easy).
Also it should take BSP data (the levels) into account.
But since this tool could never proof a cheat (it only could assist admins)
and the efforts to do it would be realy high (since I don't know of s.th.
compareable yet, there are only some dem + bsp specifiaction docs and
scripts out there) I don't think there will be such a tool.
Also let's be honest:
Most likely CS 1.6 has entered the last timespan of it's lifecycle.
The community will either move on to CS:S or other games or old players will
quit gaming and new players will start with CS:S or other games.
The chances of an revival are minimal.
I think our only options currently are an VAC update (won't happen or will
only happen for a last time I think) or an CD fix.
Also I think if we stop leagues because of many players cheating, we've
already lost the battle (but also I have no good suggestion what could be
done otherwise, I am realy very sorry for this).
An good idea would be if UA could relase some parts of the CD source or at
least start additional anticheat projects, so that when one anticheat has
been
taken down totally may be an other one still detects many of the new cheats
(so the teams can exchange engineknowledge and so on).
Of course this is only my point of view, it's not problem if you have other
opinions :)
In conclusion I am looking forward to an Cheating:Death Update with some of
the critical parts rewritten (if possible).
Greetings and so on blah :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jarrett Hawrylak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] useful anti-cheat tool alternatives?
Wrong list, this is HLCoders. And I haven't kept up with GOLDSRC, but
I think you're pretty much stuck with no anti-cheat if you're going to
ditch CD and VAC because they don't work. I don't think HLGuard does
anything, either, and thats the only other anti-cheat that comes to
mind. Maybe punkbuster?
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 04:54:40 +0100, mercury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello dear readers of the hlds mailing list, dear VALVe Employees,
I just wanted to ask if anybody out there knows any anti-cheat tool
for Counter-Strike 1.6 which is usefully working at the moment.
As we all know, VAC is outdated since several months and CD has been
hacked lately. At the moment, there is no way of realizing a fair
competition regarding CS games. Both mainstream anti-cheat tools, VAC and
CD are not worth a penny right now.
Some days ago, when things regarding this CD - Crack went public we
(the ESL, the biggest european online gaming league) decided to stop
all our Counter-Strike Ladders. And this is not something we like to
do very often. Read more here if interested:
http://www.esl-europe.net/eu/news/9661/
http://www.steambans.com/news.php?id=1267
Please dont get me wrong, i am not trying to sound important here. But
i have to reach as many people as i can to try to find some
information about other possible, not much-known alternatives to
prevent cheating. The situation regarding cheats today is even worse
than it was some months ago. And it wont get any better. If you know
any tool which might be useful at the moment, please report it to me.
You may even contact me directly if you can help in any way. We are
definately interested in any way of cooperation for anything that you
might provide that can help us all.
Please dont let cheating prevail.
--
Best regards,
mercury mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ESL Master League Admin Counter-Strike Germany
counter-strike.de Editor & Server Administrator
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