There is an existing Menu interface as part of the plugin API, you should use that.
- Alfred ----Original Message---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Jennings Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 5:41 PM To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlcoders] MenuSelect > I agree wholeheartedly. Even though I'm against this whole update > deprecating Menuselect code, I feel that it is a wholly different > situation than something like adding access to money values, as the > menuselect code is easily mod-independant. There would be no issues > with such a proper menu from working in any of the Source mods, which > is why I have a problem with the fact that a hack is even necessary > for such a menu. If Valve wants us to stop using hacks in our code, > why not give us something proper to use instead that suits our needs? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] MenuSelect > > > > > Add Access to the users money via IPlayerInfo. > > > > It's a generic interface meant to be mod-independant. You would > > have to be able to derive a special CCSPlayerInfo from it. Same > > with CS > > 1.6, you couldn't just get money from the entvars, you had to find > > the offset from the CBaseEntity base in pvPrivateData (omg hax!)... > > this > > is reasonable, since Valve has no reason to abstract that sort of > > thing. > > > > ~dvander > > > > Ray wrote: > > > > > > I too am highly disappointed in valve.. > > > Ive spent months of time and many ,many hours trying to make > > > admining our servers an easy thing to do, and making the menus > > > were more for peoples requests to do so, than anything else. > > > > > > The provided api for everything is less than adequate on all > > > accounts. Valve, Alfred, you would Like to know what things are > > > needed? > > > In game menus, not having to hit esq and block my view of the > > > person im about to kick or ban. Leave the menus in ...and allow > > > them to be selectable as to what the command they send on > > > selection the way the esc menus do. The reason the menus are > > > being taken out..is because of the Source > > > TV > proxy > > > problem > > > that sending the create menu messages to srctv caused.. > > > Valve had to spend time troubleshooting that..and now the price > > > for there time is to disable something they do not > > > document..other than the 2 dozen source files in the sdk that > > > shows there use. The correct solution is to have the srctv ignore > > > user messages that it doesnt need. (as well as us developers > > > taking the time to not send user messages to > bots > > > or hltv) > > > Please provide the radio command menu as is or with programmer > > > selectable commands the same way the esc menus use..Some times > > > being able to > > > hit > the > > > menu choices requires quick action... > > > Shutting them down will break everyone's plugin and make it so > > > that administering our servers is a difficult task again. > > > > > > The effects interface seems pretty much an afterthought. > > > Ok for sparks and smoke ..useless for much more, how about > > > bloodstreams and flames and who knows what else. > > > > > > Add Access to the users money via IPlayerInfo. > > > > > > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 12:12 PM 05/20/2005, you wrote: > > > > > > > I have to agree that this is a really strange and frustrating > > > > approach to take on Valve's part. I'm more disappointed in Valve > > > > that there was zero forewarning before they wished to push such > > > > a big change onto everyone in the > middle > > > > of the > > > > night. I'm going to start another thread on this topic. > > > > > > > > -Mattie > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 6:24 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] MenuSelect > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its so good to know that Valve cares so much about its > > > > > customers.. Ive never seen any warning about using a > > > > > documented SDK user message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Alfred Reynolds: > > > > > > > > > > > > They are using an undocumented hack to display those > > > > > > > menus, this update removes the hack and so they can no > > > > > > > longer use it (because the last subsystem that was using > > > > > > > it, radio menus, has finally > been > > > > > > > fixed to be client side). They have a plugin API to > > > > > > > display messages to users and get feedback, they should > > > > > > > use that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Alfred > > > > > > > > > > > > They were warned multiple times to not use the hacks they > > > > > > were, so > > > > > it is > > > > > upon their > > > > > > own heads. > > > > > > > > > > > - Alfred > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
