-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Just to compare notes: I had the same findings this afternoon for (a) and (b), though I didn't check out the differences in IServerGameDLL005. As for (b), that vstdlib to vstdlib_s relocation is problematic to manage for existing plugins. It's all a bit of a mess with so many things relocated. >From what I can ascertain, any substantial plugin would probably have to wait for the SDK release or maybe a secondary/temporary/bridge library to cover for the missing pieces. I hope a clarification on the deprecation/relocation will come with the SDK update.
In an effort to even get a barebones VSP loaded into the TF2 server, I cut a dependency on the GetCVarIF() usage in convar.cpp (one of those relocated/removed exports). After that's done, an empty plugin can load and get the majority of callbacks/interfaces from the server. Unfortunately, though, since the VEngineCvar004 interface is used by TF2, the plugin can't register console commands or variables. I wanted to request that interface because with it, it should be possible to make a a simplistic (possibly CRT-dependent) plugin as a proof-of-concept on TF2. As it stands, all I was able to prototype this afternoon was a poor cousin of a real plugin. Surely there are many more landmines hidden. If others uncover them, please share. A lot of us are really excited about TF2 and would like to get integrated. Again, Valve reps, if you get a breather, please provide the VEngineCvar004 interface definition to tide us over until the SDK update. It might not be anywhere near the whole story, but I think it could be worth the time to copy-and-paste it. Thanks, -Mattie On 9/18/07, David Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There seems to be more changes than just that; here's my cursory > analysis from a whole ten minutes of looking: > > a) IServerGameDLL005 is not the same as IServerGameDLL005 from the > original engine (the last four functions or so are new). I didn't check > the other game-provided interfaces. > > b) vstdlib.dll no longer exports a whole slew of functions. It looks > like the intention was, a long time ago, to deprecate it and move > exports to vstdlib_s.dll. However the current SDK defines the imports > against vstdlib.dll, so we'll need a new import library [?] or some sort > of clarification. > > c) It looks like mods are getting compiled with GCC4/MSVC8 now, which > is great news, but a forewarning to people who grab binary signatures: > MSVC8 has a tendency to optimize internal function calls down to a > non-standard calling convention. > > Valve said they'd provide the changes "once the fires are put out" or > something, so those are just musings while we wait semi-patiently. > > --- > David Anderson > http://www.bailopan.net/ > AlliedModders > > Mattie Casper wrote: > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Just doing some quick research and it almost looks like we could make > some > > semblance of a working server plugin for TF2 if we had access to the > > definition of VEngineCvar004. > > > > Can we get a copy of this, even if it's not official/beta, just for > > prototyping purposes? Something along the lines of what was posted last > year > > for > > ISERVERPLUGINCALLBACKS002<http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Querying_ConVars_from_Server_Plugins > >would > > be great, but even something less formal would help immensely. > > > > Thanks in advance, and congratulations on getting the TF2 beta out the > door. > > Just about everyone I've talked to has agreed that it's impressive. > > > > If someone else has had better luck figuring out VEngineCvar004, please > > don't hesitate to share. ;) > > -Mattie > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
