I'm sure Valve have learned to ignore 95% of the criticism they receive and treat the other 5% with mild indifference as they have been successful thus far. The SDK is still far more than enough to make mods, a few bugs here and there won't hold every single mod back. Hell the fact that people can access the OB SDK at all without having to purchase the Orange Box itself is a testimant to the fact Valve does care. How many people had to completely upgrade from UT2k3 to UT2k4 just to play mods that had moved over to the 2k4 engine?
This entire topic devolved from a fix put out to aid in Linux builds, but all the files there, as best as I can tell, were already available so it's not like you couldn't have fixed it yourself. How many companies let you do that without being a "client" ? On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Daniel Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not the only one who did a double take upon seeing the word "Nigger" in > a HLCoders post summary, am I? > > On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I've kept quiet on this, but now the line has been crossed. > > You are acting like 4-year-old children, and should, quite frankly, feel > > ashamed of yourselves. > > > > When a product or update is released, not everyone is going to be > pleased. > > If you are one of those that are not pleased, sometimes you've got to > live > > with it. > > > > This mailing list is not the place for you to flame, nor a place to use > > such > > offensive language, Tobias. It is a discussion about the sdk, and a place > > to > > help each other. > > > > This behaviour needs to stop. Right now. > > > > 2008/6/22 Cory de La Torre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Geezus guys, come on. > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Mulchman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Great language; I'm glad you're allowed to post to hlcoders - not. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tobias > > > > Kammersgaard > > > > Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 22:11 > > > > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > > > > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Linux & Orange Box > > > > > > > > Whatever those niggers say! I probably going to be hungover tomorrow. > I > > > > demand satisfaction :-(! > > > > > > > > /ScarT > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Tobias Kammersgaard, > > > > > > > > > > I don't know who's side you are on right now, but I know you are > not > > > > > on the side of Valve or the modding community. The source modding > > > > > community has been waiting for over 6 months for even a half decent > > > > > way of compiling mod binaries for linux. Thats complete bullshit, > and > > > > > totally unacceptable. I know better than to believe that it really > > > > > needed to take that long. Valve has very smart people, and to have > > > > > modders wait 6 months for something that should have been out in > > > > > January is pathetic. > > > > > > > > > > Tobias, if you work for some other bullshit company, or there is > some > > > > > reason why you don't want an improved source sdk, you need to leave > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Tobias Kammersgaard > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > That statement is just dumb for so many reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /ScarT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21/06/2008, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> At least you get paid to fix bugs. > > > > > >> Imagine how many free mod developers, have to deal with the bugs > > you > > > > > >> get paid to leave behind... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Tony omega Sergi < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > Awesome :D so just about 20 hours of anger and wanting to > throw > > > > linus > > > > > >> over a > > > > > >> > cliff paid off ;) > > > > > >> > -Tony > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >> Great work omega this fixed all my problems :) > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> On 6/20/08, Tony omega Sergi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > Hey guys, I think I've fixed the linux issue with > ConCommands > > > > (ie: > > > > > >> say, > > > > > >> >> > kill > > > > > >> >> > etc), and it appears to all have been makefile related. > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > Here is a tarball of the makefiles, plus vcprojtomake.cpp > > > > > >> >> > you can unpack it into the src dir (it contains the paths > > from > > > > src) > > > > > or > > > > > >> >> > somewhere else and copy the files to the appropriate > > location. > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > Please read the top thoroughly as I've made some comments > in > > > > there > > > > > ;) > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > Please let me know asap if everything is functional for you > > > now. > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > link: > > > > > >> >> > http://www.omegaowns.us/valvestuff/orange_makefiles.tar.gz > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > -- > > > > > >> >> > -Tony > > > > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > > > > archives, > > > > > >> >> > please visit: > > > > > >> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, > > > > > >> >> please visit: > > > > > >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > -- > > > > > >> > -Tony > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > > >> please visit: > > > > > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > >> please visit: > > > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view 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