Large amounts of fragmentation... Nem wrote an article on it on his site
somewhere.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Ryan Sheffer <darksk...@gmail.com> wrote:

> They should drop the GCF in all source games, but it doesn't seem like this
> is going to happen. Why the GCF hate all of the sudden? Too slow to read
> from or something?
>
> ~Ryan
>
> On Jul 21, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Tom Edwards <t_edwa...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
> > VPK/Addons are no surprise as Valve have said GCF is being dropped, and
> the menu system is entirely gamecode, but Squirrel support is convincing as
> it doesn't seem to actually be used by the game.
> >
> > I still can't quite believe that Valve would persist with two
> separately-maintained branches though. This must be a merge.
> >
> > On 21/07/2010 7:54, Stephen Swires wrote:
> >> - VPK file format over GCFs
> >> - Addon support
> >> - (pretty much) Identical menus
> >> - Squirrel scripting language support
> >> - Code probably reused for L4D2 such as the AI director
> >>
> >> Haven't checked the build number though
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Tom Edwards<t_edwa...@btinternet.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>>  Alien Swarm:
> >>>
> >>> Protocol version 7108
> >>> Exe version 7.1.0.8 (swarm)
> >>> Exe build: 10:58:16 Jul 19 2010 (4272) (630)
> >>>
> >>> TF2:
> >>>
> >>> Protocol version 15
> >>> Exe version 1.1.0.0 (tf)
> >>> Exe build: 16:21:09 Jul 16 2010 (4269) (440)
> >>>
> >>> And I don't own L4D2. The protocol version is different but the build
> >>> numbers are very close...on what grounds are you saying L4D2 branch?
> >>>
> >>> Since L4D2 is coming out on Mac at some point it may be that Source
> 2009 is
> >>> a merge between the two offices' trees.
> >>>
> >>> (It turns out that visibility isn't a problem BTW: it's done simply by
> >>> running VBSP with -alldetail.)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 21/07/2010 5:33, Stephen Swires wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Alien Swarm is based on L4D2, not Source 2009. If someone can solve
> the
> >>>> VVIS
> >>>> issue then there should be no issues in using it for TCs - server
> >>>> browser's
> >>>> still there.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Olly<oli...@gmail.com>   wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  AlienSwarm isn't using Source 2009. S2k9 doesn't have support for
> VPK.
> >>>>> On 21 July 2010 16:55, Jonas 'Sortie' Termansen<hlcod...@maxsi.dk>
> >>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  On 2010-07-21 17:45, Tom Edwards wrote:
> >>>>>>  That simply isn't true. If another user of the computer owns HL2
> then
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> GCFs will be there, and I expect most of them will be there if the
> HL2
> >>>>>> demo
> >>>>>> is installed too.
> >>>>>>> Requiring HL2 to be installed makes your whole effort redundant
> anyway!
> >>>>>>> It's already on Source 2009 (though evidently not exactly the same
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> version
> >>>>>> since it won't mount GCFs).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  HL2 is on the Source 2009 engine, indeed, but HL2 mods are not.
> Our
> >>>>> project
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> is simply porting HL2 mods to this engine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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