You know what this sounds like?  A bunch of kids who aren't getting
their way.  You are now trying to force Valve into an answer.  They
already gave one, as posted by Tony Ray.  They have chosen to not
financial support PB and its efforts.  So what?  They are not required
to, nor should they have to.  If Tony and his folks got involved with PB
in the hopes of making money off of Valve, that's a poor, poor business
plan.

I'd also like to note that Tony patched PB more than Valve ever did.
While offering a great tool, PB was just as infallible as the HL engine,
folks.  Get a grip and collect the information.  What you choose to do
is your business.  If you want to bring your servers down, fine.  This
list, whether you know it or not, is comprised of a very small minority
of the server admin community, not the majority.  What you're proposing
wouldn't even put a dent in the server population, and it probably
wouldn't be noticed.

You will not force Valve into doing something they do not want to do.
This is not a democracy, nor will they be bullied.  Capitalistic
bastards?  Who are you, and do you have a clue what you're talking
about?  Give me a break.  There isn't an online game out there that does
not have cheats.  It's a known fact.  Q3, UT, you name it, it's out
there.  I shudder to think the other communities react the way the
children here have.  I've lost quite a bit of respect for some of you
folks on the list, and I'm ashamed to say I'm even affiliated at this
point.  Sad, folks..just plain sad.


Ryan "Ronin" Antonelli
Counter-Server Site Administrator
http://server.counter-strike.net


-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Hoeppner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PB issue non-response from Valve. Shut all our serversdown
to boycott?


Heh..  That's exactly what I am proposing.  :)  If it gets to that
point,
with no response from Valve, then I say we just shut all our servers
down
until it catches their attention.  Of course, that would require all of
us
to do it, or the impact just wouldn't be there.

StanTheMan
TheHardwareFreak
www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dylan Pollard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: PB doesn't even work, confirmed!
>
>
>
> Your not proposing a global boycott of all Half-Life servers
> to stop those
> capitallistic bastards Valve are you? That would be horrible.
>
>



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