This cheat alone should in no way prevent you from running HLTV...

HLTV does NOT need spectator mode turned on.

HLTV uses a regular player slot.
It's just as if the HLTV player joins and never picks a team, and HLDS
doesn't care about it.
It will run perfectly fine with spectator mode disabled.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Hoeppner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:18 PM
Subject: RE: Demo Of Cheating in TFC (NoClip+SpeedHack)


>
> Roger that.  It does really need fixing, so we can run HLTV without having
> to worry about it.  We had disabled spectating on BfB servers a while ago
> because of this hack.  We're working on making HLTV permanent on BfB, but
> this hack, and some multicast issues, along with the HLTV proxy issues are
> holding us back...
>
> StanTheMan
> TheHardwareFreak
> www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HoundDawg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 6:04 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Demo Of Cheating in TFC (NoClip+SpeedHack)
> >
> >
> >
> > Nonetheless Stan, it exists in 1108 which means that Valve
> > hasn't prevented
> > it.  We're just informing them again of the issue so they can fix it
> > possibly.
> >
> > HoundDawg
> > http://www.phpGamingSite.com
> > http://www.unitedadmins.com
> > http://www.unitedadmins.com/hlbp
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stan Hoeppner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:16 PM
> > Subject: RE: Demo Of Cheating in TFC (NoClip+SpeedHack)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > This spectating noclip hack is not new guys.  I banned a
> > few jerks using
> > it
> > > on BfB a few months back.
> > >
> > > Some of these worthless older hacks seems to have a usage
> > cycle to them.
> > > They just randomly resurface every now and then.
> > >
> > > StanTheMan
> > > TheHardwareFreak
> > > www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: David Hammon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 11:40 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Demo Of Cheating in TFC (NoClip+SpeedHack)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I saw this same thing on my server.  As far as the noclip
> > > > hack, it is a
> > > > simple spectator hack.  The person doing it on my server
> > said he found
> > > > the hack at no other place than the myg0t forums.  I
> > emailed Eric S.
> > > > about it and he said that had been fixed in the beta server
> > > > release for
> > > > CS, and that they are working for the fix to be released in
> > > > another beta
> > > > for TFC.  I tried out the cheat, and was surprised at how
> > > > easy it was.  A
> > > > simple bind was all you needed, and you were able to do it.
> > > > If you pass
> > > > through  people it will make it so they cannot move until
> > > > they drop, and
> > > > some other things for those that have "refined" their
> > > > abilities with it.
> > > > I have just told all my admins to be on the lookout for this
> > > > cheat and to
> > > > ban it at first site.
> > > >
> > > > --Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 11:36:34PM -0700,
> > > > HoundDawg wrote: >
> > > > > Well, first of all, you have to watch it a little bit until
> > > > you start seeing
> > > > > the cheating messages.  Then, you'll see a red HWG running
> > > > around with his
> > > > > legs through the floor.... going really fast (hence the
> > > > Speed  hack) and
> > > > > mowing down all of the blue... he even goes through the
> > > > walls (hence the
> > > > > NoClip hack).  You'll see some more messages and eventually
> > > > a second HWG
> > > > > doing the same thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > HoundDawg
> > > > > http://www.phpGamingSite.com
> > > > > http://www.unitedadmins.com
> > > > > http://www.unitedadmins.com/hlbp
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 9:38 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Demo Of Cheating in TFC (NoClip+SpeedHack)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What am i supposed to see in that demo? I have to admit
> > > > that i played TFC
> > > > > 1
> > > > > > 1/2 years ago the last time but i dont see who and how
> > > > he/she is cheating.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could you explain that demo? Please?
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "HoundDawg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 9:25 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Demo Of Cheating in TFC (NoClip+SpeedHack)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The clan, Order of Destruction made a demo that some of
> > > > you may be
> > > > > > > interested in (Valve especially):
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www22.brinkster.com/clandead1/cheatz0r.zip -
> > > > Demo Of Cheating
> > > > > > > (NoClip+SpeedHack)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HoundDawg
> > > > > > > http://www.phpGamingSite.com
> > > > > > > http://www.unitedadmins.com
> > > > > > > http://www.unitedadmins.com/hlbp
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