For the home user, dude. Not everyone feels like gearing their home network for fiber optics. Now, back to the main topic before I start thwackin'... ----------------------------------------------------- Robert J Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wrath_of_Ace Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT]Re: [hlds] HLDS Win2k Server follow Networking Question I think it is called Fibre Optical Network? Just a guess here. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert J Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 1:24 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] HLDS Win2k Server follow Networking Question > Now if only we could get Cat 5 to haul ass like firewire (400MBps)... > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Robert J Mitchell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 10:13 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds] HLDS Win2k Server follow Networking Question > > This is not correct. I have a 4 port hub. One of the ports goes to a > 10mbps > connection, the other 3 are 100mbps connections. The bandwidth from one > 100mbps connection to another 100mbps connection is exactly what you > would > expect, and is the same whether or not the 10mbps cable is plugged in. > The > 10mbps connection lopes along at the slow 10mbps speed. Having one > 10mbps > connection does not effect the speed of the other ports at all. I've had > it > like this for a while - the 10mbps connection has no effect at all on > the > speed of the 100mbps connections - they are lightning fast, while the > 10mbps > is soooo slooooowwwww..... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kelly Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:32 PM > Subject: RE: [hlds] HLDS Win2k Server follow Networking Question > > > > In response to Hubs vs Switches. > > One of the biggest differences between the two is this, the hub runs > > all connections at the speed of the slowest connection. Thus if you > have > a > > 4 port hub with 3 100mb/sec connections plugged into it, and 1 > 10mb/sec > > connection plugged into it, all 4 connections will only run at > 10mb/sec. > > However a switch will run each connection at its maximum speed. Thus > if > you > > have a 4 port switch with 3 100mb/sec connections plugged into it, and > 1 > > 10mb/sec connection plugged into it, the 3 100mb/sec connections will > all > > run at 100mb/sec while the 10mb/sec connection will run at 10mb/sec. > > > > (To achieve this most switches also have some sort of imbedded > controller, > > this means that many switches also allow you to make some changes to > their > > configuration, such as Nat translation, port forwarding and the like. > The > > configuration changes available vary by switch manufacturer. Hubs > however, > > typically have no controller and thus typically are not configurable.) > > > > Kelly > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Parrot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:09 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [hlds] HLDS Win2k Server follow Networking Question > > > > > > I'm not as experienced as most of you, but I set up a simple network > with > a > > full T-1 coming through the Intel Express 8220 Router (vs. a > Cisco...it > was > > only $700 new, has the CSU/DSU built in, and a slick "Device View" > menu > > interface) to a 650 Athlon w/ 256 RAM running Win2k Server (not > Advanced > > Server) with 2 NIC's. I put the higher quality 3Com Etherlink Server > > (3CR990SV97 model) as the LAN NIC, and set this up with "Client for MS > > Networks," "File and Print Sharing" and "TCP/IP" protocols with the > settings > > Manuel had also said below. > > > > I then use the 3Com "3C905C-TX-M" NIC for the WAN, but only have > "TCP/IP" > > enabled (no Client for MS Networks or File/Print Sharing) to protect > the > > Server PC and insulate the LAN. I also run BID & NAV on both the > Server > and > > LAN PC. These are all networked to a 10/100 SMC switch (I heard that > a > > switch is faster than a HUB...but am still confused about what the > > differences and indications of Hubs vs. Switches is), where the router > CAT > > cable connects into. > > > > Because I know that Win2k Server has much faster, and allows more > > simultaneous connections, I put my HLDS on the Win2k Server box, and > running > > it with a custom user profile. I also Ghosted and image in case it > gets > > hacked. I can restore it back from the 3 CD's (I have lots of maps!) > pretty > > quick. I have nothing else on the Win2k Server PC. > > > > How does this setup sound to you? The pings for people are > superb....a > lot > > are getting pings under 50! I am also now running a second HLDS, both > > running as shortcuts..not as services. So far the most people I have > had > > connected to both games running is about 35...and no crashes or other > > problems have come up running this for about a week straight (have not > had > > to reboot, or restart, etc.). > > > > Sorry this is so long...I'm getting to the heart of my question, but > another > > thought I had was at some point to get another (a third) dedicated > (used) > PC > > box from someone, and use that as a dedicated game server, running > Win2k > > Pro, put 2 NIC's in it, also plug them both into the switch, and then > > configure one NIC to directly connect to the Internet (only using > TCP/IP) > > with another one of the block of public IP's. Then have the 2nd NIC > connect > > in to the LAN so I could have configuring access from the network. If > I > did > > that I would also likely get one of those keyboard/mouse/monitor A/B > > switches so I didn't have to put up another monitor. > > > > I guess my real question is: Is there anything wrong with having the > Win2k > > Server box that is also the gateway NAT routing PC run the HLDS games > if > > that's all I have on it? People are getting excellent pings, with > many > > under 50! I understand that the Server PC will get a bit more > "stressed" > if > > I do file transfers, surfing, emailing, play HL as client, etc. from > the > LAN > > PC I have now...but I thought that most all of these LAN requests just > get > > passed right through the Win2K Server box out to the Internet. Is > there > any > > point to setting up a third PC as a dedicated game server which would > have > a > > less powerful OS on it? > > > > Again, my apologies for this being so long, and many thanks for any > > feedback. > > > > From: "Manuel Bermudez III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: [hlds] CS Server Question > > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:10:18 -0500 > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Well... I have messed with I-share before and really don't like it. > > If your running win2k server stick with the ICS (internet connection > > sharing) that comes with it. It seems to route traffic very smoothly > and > > efficiently. I have had no problems (yet). Just make sure that you > have > > two decent 10/100 PCI nic cards installed. Trash the I-share. You > don't > > need it. > > Don't give yourself more headaches. If you are new to networking... > here > > is some information that will help you out a bit: > > > > Share the nic that has the router/dsl/cable connection that is > directly > > connected to it. It will know the other nic is there and create a > > default subnet of like 255.255.255.0. Then it will make the #2 nic a > > default gateway access to the rest of your network and assign it a ip > > address of 192.168.1.1 by default. It will also use the preferred DNS > of > > 127.0.0.1 as well. You have to do nothing. Just make sure all the > other > > computers that need to have internet access are using DHCP by default > > and it will find an ip of 192.168.1.XXX for itself. Unless you want to > > give it a specific ip, that is up to you. Then connect them all to > your > > hub (I hope you have one) and connect the server nic #2 to the hub and > > viola! You have ICS in basic form. > > > > Welcome to networking 101! > > > > Good luck! > > > > Best regards, > > Manuel Bermudez III > > Network Implementation Engineer > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
