Thanx for the response...i guess i should have listed some system specs, and where i had come up with the baseline for useage.
as far as specs its an amd athlon 64 3000+ w/800mhzfsb 768 of ddr400mhz k8usa dragon board...etc and as far as where ive come up with the useage specs is based on running several unreal game servers as well as a HLDS running clan mod and 32players while running 5unreal games and the HL server our cpu usage is about 10% with the unreal full and hl at between 15-25 players,memory usage is staying steady around 304mb ram usage with peaks to 345 as far as bandwith i monitor useage directly on the isp's switch port on the fiber line and the HL full us using around 500k sym band and the unreal around 145k sym band based on 4 unreal servers running... we also host a winmx chat on this server as well as ftp server and website and just for kicks weve been running computational chemistry programs as well...the os is win2k pro butr we have run winxp 64 and win 2003 server 64bit enterprise edition,so far cpu usage is maintaining about 21% total usage the cpu temp is around 99f. we are averaging about 35-50 Gb of transfer on the HL server but band is not an issue at this point.the system seems very stable and has been running flawless for about 5 mos. ok to make this short...i need to know how to run the multiple servers on steam...if someone would care to help us out it would be very much appreciated. if you would like to visit our server its listed as =[r.A.w.]=zone vengence on steam under secure servers. to save on post space we can be contacted at:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit our website to send mail critterbuster.com thanx for your time in your responses Critter ---------------------------------------------- Salsgiver Internet Services Webmail Save up to 50% on a new dial-up account. Find out more at http://services.salsgiver.com ---------- Original Message ----------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:56:12 -0700 Subject: hlds digest, Vol 1 #2814 - 5 msgs > Send hlds mailing list submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of hlds digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. SV: [hlds] OT: X-Spectate : Any thoughts? ([YG]Sharza) > 2. SV: [hlds] Questions again And my opinion ([YG]Sharza) > 3. Re: Questions again And my opinion (dsoTm [LynX]) > 4. SV: SV: [hlds] OT: X-Spectate : Any thoughts? ([YG]Sharza) > 5. RE: OT: X-Spectate : Any thoughts? (spartibus) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "[YG]Sharza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: SV: [hlds] OT: X-Spectate : Any thoughts? > Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:40:17 +0200 > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Hacks don't show up on screenshots. End of story. > > > > Punkbuster is worthless, in the fact that you can download a program that > > tricks pbuster into thinking its running. > It would only be usefull if built into the engine itself, as > adminmod is not directly running on the the client machine and could > not get a screen shot of the client machines videomemory. > > Cheats themselves does not show up that's correct, but not end of > story. Because if someone is wallhacking, you would be able to see > that from a direct screen dump, as you would see what the cheater > sees, thus the transparent walls and the tracers and the glowing > enemies for some cheats would obviously blow him wide open. > > Next thing is that many cheats, ogc for instance brags about being > so easy to use and hell, most of the cheaters screen is full of on- > screen menus, thus once again blowing the cheaters cover. > > Some cheats of course will be able to disguise themselves, but once > again, many times this will rely on the technical skills of the > cheater him/herself to install and configure such a cheat correctly, > and mostly its poor souls with a burning need to be better than > others and able to own who cheats. > > So the end of the story would be, that even though it doesn't reveal > any cheater, a lot of cheaters could be spotted immediately, even > for instance a 2 minute background demo recording with transparent > walls as an opposite for the x-spec thing and uploading it to the > server in compressed format or similar for the admin to spectate and > see what happens. > > Another thing is that I seem to notice that the amount of cheaters > using especially aimbot and wh's is rising again, is other noticing > the same thing, eventually before they were almost completely gone > after vac was updated rapidly, but seems to be returning and not > being caught. > > Is there any way to report a cheater's steamed with attached demo's > in order to get their license deactivated from steam enabled servers? > > L8r, > Sharza > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "[YG]Sharza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: SV: [hlds] Questions again And my opinion > Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:46:11 +0200 > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Does anyone know how many hl servers a 64 bit system can handle or is there a > > base line spec on cpu usage per server? > Nope, because there is no base line spec of the power in a 64 bit > system, this depends once again on other components and the speed of > the cpu. > > > lets all try and be nice and answer Questions for other members...if were not > > gonna help each other we may as well goto a AOL chat and gab like the rest of > > the world. > You may not have been answered because your post got lost within the > flaming bunch of other mails coming from this list. > > There are more than one type of people here, mostly its those who > just answer if they can provide an answer and don't if they cant, as > a "no sorry cannot help you" reply from 30 persons would be waste of > time and space, if no-one answers no one can help. > > Then there is those, who looks for anything they can use to make a > flamewar going on, as they have no better things to do (obviously, > but not certainly). > > So basically this leads to the conclusion that what you can expect > to get from this list is either a response, no response or a > flame... expect a flame as this is the most common these days. Start > flaming yourself for not receiving an answer is not the right > approach at least, so much I can say. > > L8r, > Sharza > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "dsoTm [LynX]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Questions again And my opinion > Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:49:12 -0700 > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Wow. Not sure where you are getting your #'s from, but no way you > are going to run 50-60 32 man hl servers on a single 64bit box with > 768mb RAM. On the more demanding maps, a xp 2600+ will run about 60% > with spikes in the 90% range with a full 32, like on de_aztec. I > believe there is a 64bit hlds binary for linux, but I don't believe > it to be current, and there is no 64bit binary for windows. The > general consensus has been that the win32 hlds has been faster and > more stable than the linux version as of late, so you are pretty > much SOL as far as getting the full usage out of that 64bit proc. > The load is exponential also, so 2 32 player instances is much more > demanding than 3 20 player instances. From my experience, I would be > happy if I could run a pair of 32 player servers on that system > comfortably, and I would do a 1gb of ram for that. But as most of us > found, with our various skills regarding tweaking the OS, and plugin > differences, personal experience has been the best teacher. One > thing is for sure, you definately have enough bandwidth. GL > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "critterbuster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:08 AM > Subject: [hlds] Questions again And my opinion > > > I guess i also am a bit disgusted with this listing,I had asked a Question > > several days ago and didnt even recieve a single response of any kind....i > > wasnt sure if anyone knew of any stats on 64 bit servers or not,but i had > at > > least expected some kind of answer even if it was" sorry cant help ya". > > > > but because there isnt much info out there besides this...and this is > > supposedly the official valve listing i'm still here asking the same Q's > > again....... > > > > Does anyone know how many hl servers a 64 bit system can handle or is > there a > > base line spec on cpu usage per server? > > > > and since i am new to game servers BUT not servers themselves....how does > one > > go about running multiple servers thru steam?...Is the a different > interface > > such as a DOS shell or do i need a special version of HLDS to run > > multiples....so far from what i can tell from running unreal servers our > > server should be able to handle about 50-60 32 man hl servers...but i > still > > have no info on how to do this... > > > > lets all try and be nice and answer Questions for other members...if were > not > > gonna help each other we may as well goto a AOL chat and gab like the rest > of > > the world. > > > > thanx for reading or Ignoring this post > > Critter > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > Salsgiver Internet Services Webmail > > Save up to 50% on a new dial-up account. > > Find out more at http://services.salsgiver.com > > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thu, 27 May 2004 06:26:42 -0700 > > Subject: hlds digest, Vol 1 #2812 - 6 msgs > > > > > Send hlds mailing list submissions to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > than "Re: Contents of hlds digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Re: {OT} thoughts, comments (Roc) > > > 2. For the love of all things good (Devin) > > > 3. Re: For the love of all things good (Metallica Danzig) > > > 4. Max players shows incorrectly? (Brian McAlpine) > > > 5. RE: unsubscribe me PLEASE! (matthew .) > > > 6. Re: unsubscribe me PLEASE! (Alex Brett) > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > From: "Roc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] {OT} thoughts, comments > > > Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 10:47:47 -0400 > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Look at the archives, That is why this list has gone downhill, that > > > is why a good bunch of regulars who were here way before us have > > > left in disgust as they saw what this list has since turned into! > > > > > > See, because anytime someone asks a simple question around here, > > > there are a certain bunch who rather flame or have pissing contests > > > instead of answering the question when they can very easily ignore > > > the post if they've nothing creative or informative to add. > > > > > > You are new here but take notice to an ongoing trend! > > > > > > These one sided people are the ones who are usually the first to > > > reply calling you wrong just because you don't do something they're > > > way or to they're liking as if they are something so much better > > > than the next. > > > (watch the egos fly) > > > > > > I asked a question and although I should've clarified myself a whole > > > lot better I got attacked simply because I don't run my server > > > someone else's way! > > > > > > There are some great help still here that will answer your post in a > > > decent manner whether or not they like what's written such as Kevin > > > O Mogely / Rob / Erik, Eric, Alfred / heck even spartibus ;) / etc.. > > > > > > Don't let it discourage you and just be ready because you too will > > > one day voice your opinion! > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "IRCC LAN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:33 AM > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] thoughts, comments > > > > > > > Hi Guys > > > > > > > > I am new to hosting a CS server. I have just been reading these > emails > > > for > > > > about 2 weeks now so that I could learn from other admins as I heard > this > > > is > > > > different from forums and flaming. Obliviously I am wrong. Try and > look > > > at > > > > it from the other person view. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2004 2:30 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] thoughts, comments > > > > > > > > look in the mirror... nuff said > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "jon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 12:26 AM > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] thoughts, comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's why I have "majority" in there. Maybe you should take his > advice > > > > and > > > > > stop baiting. > > > > > > > > > > -Jon > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:33 PM > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] thoughts, comments > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm surprised you think only admins read this list! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, If you get 44 kills in under 6 minutes I guess you are > > > > > > correct and would get banned. > > > > > > Your point? > > > > > > > > > > > > Take Ryan's advice will you! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "jon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:13 PM > > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] thoughts, comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess I'd be banned from your server pretty quickly. As > > > > > > would quite > > > > > > > a > > > > > > few > > > > > > > of my friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is an HLDS (read: half life dedicated server) mailing list, > > > > > > > therefore > > > > > > a > > > > > > > majority of the responses will in fact be from *gasp* ADMINS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:38 PM > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] thoughts, comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is wrong with that is for the 2 years running a DoD > > > > > > server no > > > > > > > > one ever had scores like that. Not on my server anyway! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To clarify these are NOT snipe kills OK! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you read or are you just a flamer? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't banned anyone yet but please don't tell me how to > run a > > > > > > > > server, I just asked a honest question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you run a server? I ask because this is the first time I > see > > > > > > > > your name? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My question is for ADMINS only! > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Floris Barnhoorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 1:14 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] thoughts, comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is wrong with scores above 50 in DoD? Good players > > > > > > can easily > > > > > > > > get such scores with a kill/death ratio of 5/1. > > > > > > > > Especially good snipers, at least spectate them before you > ban. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Roc wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > > > >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi I run a > > > > > > > > DoD server > > > > > > > > >on a Windows box and to be honest I have not played > > > > > > > > DoD since 2 days before the last CPU eating update (still > > > > > > no steam > > > > > > > > client on my freshly re-formatted PC). > > > > > > > > >However, I monitor the server constantly through HLSW. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >My question is since the update people are getting scores in > > > > > > > > DoD mind > > > > > > > > >you > > > > > > > > of 50 and up. was something added to the game to make > > > > > > the scores go > > > > > > > > to this level or are these simply new hacks currently > > > > > > undetected by > > > > > > > > VAC - VSM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I don't want to start going on a kick/ban rampage So I > > > > > > > > remain hesitant > > > > > > > > until I hear some feedback from the community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your thoughts and comments please! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Regards > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > > > > > list archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > From: "Devin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 08:57:18 -0700 > > > Subject: [hlds] For the love of all things good > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Please, please, !!!! delete all content below your post and the > > > thread you are replying to (or maybe another thread if it is > > > directly relevant) !!!! > > > > > > you guys have some great opinions, great suggestions and overall good > > > information but scrolling through 200 lines of old subject matter > > > just to see a 5-10 word reply is driving me nuts. > > > > > > Mistakes or forgetting is no biggie, but can we all please work > > > together to try and make the emails easier to scan through and grab > > > the info we want? > > > > > > Thanks :) > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:18:08 -0700 (PDT) > > > From: Metallica Danzig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] For the love of all things good > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Preach on brother!!! > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:32:39 +1000 > > > From: "Brian McAlpine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: [hlds] Max players shows incorrectly? > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Hi I have a couple of servers that had a 20 player limit. Since on CZ > > > the fastline map only has 16 spawn points, I opted to reduce the player > > > limit to 16. 16 people can connect, but in steam it shows 16/20. Anyone > > > else had this problem? > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > Attention: > > > This e-mail is privileged and confidential. If you are not the > > > intended rec= ipient please delete the message and notify the > > > sender. 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Vote for your favorites for a chance to > > win $1 > > > > million![1] > > > > > > > > ===References:=== > > > > 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2746??PS=47575 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Alex Brett > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +44 (0)870 744 2170 > > > http://www.loho.co.uk/ > > > > > > -- __--__-- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > End of hlds Digest > > ------- End of Original Message ------- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: "[YG]Sharza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: SV: SV: [hlds] OT: X-Spectate : Any thoughts? > Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:52:39 +0200 > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Good god, it's about time someone brought this up. PiTaGoRaS is > > absolutely right. > Any client side screenshots must be taken by the engine and be read > directly from the memory, thus not telling noone or anything that a > screenshot is in progress. > > But enough of this! > > A cheat can ALWAYS adapt, so must the engine. Now this is not the > right place to discuss this and it should be taken no further here. > This was a mere suggestion by someone, and what do we have? The > usual situation! I suppose this never stops... > > L8r, > Sharza > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > From: "spartibus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [hlds] OT: X-Spectate : Any thoughts? > Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:54:51 -0700 > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sharza, the problem is most cheats DE-ACTIVATE themselves right > before the screenshot is taken, and re-activate themselves > immediately after the screen is taken. And what's worse, is that > this is so instant that you can't even notice it, literally. And > practically every major cheat has this. That's why things like X- > Spectate are useless. > > A tool that forced people to record for 2 minutes, wouldn't show > anything that you can't see spectating, either. I guess that would be > useful if you weren't at the server at that particular time, but > ultimately you can just use HLTV. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [YG]Sharza > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: SV: [hlds] OT: X-Spectate : Any thoughts? > > > Hacks don't show up on screenshots. End of story. > > > > Punkbuster is worthless, in the fact that you can download a program > that > > tricks pbuster into thinking its running. > It would only be usefull if built into the engine itself, as > adminmod is not directly running on the the client machine and could > not get a screen shot of the client machines videomemory. > > Cheats themselves does not show up that's correct, but not end of story. > Because if someone is > wallhacking, you would be able to see that from a direct screen dump, > as you would see what the cheater sees, thus the transparent walls > and the tracers and the glowing enemies for some cheats would > obviously blow him wide open. > > Next thing is that many cheats, ogc for instance brags about being so > easy to use and hell, most of > the cheaters screen is full of on-screen menus, thus once again blowing > the cheaters cover. > > Some cheats of course will be able to disguise themselves, but once > again, many times this will rely > on the technical skills of the cheater him/herself to install and > configure such a cheat correctly, > and mostly its poor souls with a burning need to be better than > others and able to own who cheats. > > So the end of the story would be, that even though it doesn't reveal > any cheater, a lot of cheaters could be spotted immediately, even > for instance a 2 minute background demo recording with transparent > walls as an opposite for the x-spec thing and uploading it to the > server in compressed format or similar for the admin to spectate and > see what happens. > > Another thing is that I seem to notice that the amount of cheaters using > especially aimbot and wh's > is rising again, is other noticing the same thing, eventually before > they were almost completely > gone after vac was updated rapidly, but seems to be returning and not > being caught. > > Is there any way to report a cheater's steamed with attached demo's > in order to get their license deactivated from steam enabled servers? > > L8r, > Sharza > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > End of hlds Digest ------- End of Original Message ------- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
