Thank you for your lengthy description. I have CD and have played CD servers
off and on over the years. But realize that a majority of people playing
connect through STEAM now and it is easiest to pick a server from the steam
serverlist - My serverlist is set to secure only because I don't want to be
bothered wtih trying to figure out which 'insecure' servers are running CD
and which aren't. I tried looking for a CD server, but none of teh servers
listed with decent pings said anything about CD.

Thus highlighting one of the biggest problems with CD - the client proggie.
Most people encountering a server requiring they go download a 3rd party
software to play, will opt instead for instant fun by clicking on another
server in the list.

Not trying to start a CD / NO CD flame here - I think CD is great and
applaud all who use it. I just think it's a terrible recommendation people
go play on insecure servers as 80-90% are flogging with haxors.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ludovic Tirtiaux
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 7:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #2908 - 9 msgs


Hi all,

There are two kinds on 'insecure" servers: those with anticheat and/or
admins and those without. You obvously payed on servers of the second kind.

I am the admin of a CD (CheatingDeath) server and there are rarely
cheaters on it. From my point of view, the big advantage of CD is that
it has a client, that players must have. This forces players to do some
job in order to access a CD server. As a result, players on CD servers
are generally more motivated and mature than the average. This is what I
like the most with CD. That it is more or less efficient than VAC is not
that important for me. :)

Just to say that banning all non-VAC servers would be rather harsh.

Regards,
PDL Hagen


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>From: "Darren J. Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [hlds] Steam and WON down
>Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 08:18:19 -0700
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Well,
>
>For the first time since Steam was released I had to play on insecure
>servers as Mr. Hansen suggested. What a freakshow. Insecure servers should
>be banned altoghether from Steam - what a freakin waste of time. Thanks
>Steam for a great weekend! Thanks Hansen for a derelict answer. (I had
>already figured this out myself and after playing 3 rounds on 3 different
>servers, I went outside for the weekend).
>


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