> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Munoz > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 5:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? > > > Now I have an interesting situation. One of My most trusted and oldest > Admins is being accused of hacking. I spec'd him and made a demo > plus I have > my trusty HLTV demo recording as always. But the truth is I still don't > "know" if he was hacking or not. He denies it of course. Part of what I > thought was a speed hack turned out to be an Exploit of the other Admins > discovered and didn't tell anyone about. It is an exploit with a plugin > called Force Mod. As in Starwars Force. This guy is very good, always has > been. One of the few players that can give me a hard time on my server. He > basically owns the # 1 slot in all our stats. The map is Starwars2. This > server has been one the few dedicated Starwars2 servers for about 2 years. > He is one of the original players and knows the map better than most. He > claims he just shoots at certain spots on the walls in the hopes > of hitting > someone. My son does the same thing and I know for a fact my son Does NOT > hack. This Admin of mine caught my attention because he was using the clan > tag [myG0t]. He says he was trying to get Hackers to admit they were > hacking, which he did and promptly banned them for it! Lol Isn't that > entrapment? > > Now if VAC was up to date this might not have ever been a issue. > > I will gladly provide the link to DL these demos if anyone is > interested in > putting their 2 cents in. Please keep in mind that this is a "Fun" server > though usually run pretty strictly. Low Gravity is the Norm there (it is a > space map!) I already have verified that he is Not using a speed hack as I > first assumed. I am going to see if there is an update for that plugin or > fix it myself. > > Meanwhile he is suspended from admin privileges until I review > more demos of > him playing. > > Sorry for the long drawn out post.... But I am actually getting a bit > stressed from this! > > Mike ParaDOX Munoz > > www.paradisesgarage.com >
As I posted here earlier, I had exactly the problem you're describing. It is stressful because a cheating admin is the fastest way to stop people from having fun on your server. A guy I thought was a good admin was being accused of cheating almost every day. He played during the day when I couldn't, so we had an admin on the server most of the time, and the server became pretty popular as a result. He was banning people on a daily basis according to the logs, and most of them were people I had my eye on because I suspected them of cheating, but for one reason or another I couldn't catch them. Unfortunately I found out later that he banned some for "disrespecting" him. Like your admin, he held the number one spot in the stats. He got one or two aimbot warnings from HLGuard about every other game. I've never cheated in my life and I got warnings once in a while, so it was no big deal. This was a WON server, and in the middle of July when WON's days were numbered, I announced in the MOTD that the server would be converting to Steam by the end of the week. My admin suddenly disappeared for no apparent reason. During a routine check of the HLGuard logs, I discovered several aimbot warnings for my admin, and he was BANNED! So much for trusting people. Another thing...I ran Statsme on my WON server. I quickly discovered that any stats mod is a "hack magnet". AT LEAST 30% of my regulars turned out to be cheaters. When I removed Statsme at least 30% more stopped coming to my server, which was fine with me. Those who are only worried about their stats make the worst teammates and the best whiners. If your admin is cheating then you will probably have a very hard time catching him. Here's a clue though: When you're both on, start spectating. If he's cheating he'll probably find an excuse to spectate with you or stop playing, or even change classes so that cheats are harder to spot. Looking back, my admin did this a lot. Now that you've suspended him though he's going to be more careful than ever. VAC will never be able to catch every cheater, but like HLGuard, it's better than nothing. HL mods are the most popular in the world, which is a double-edged sword. On one hand, good news for Valve, incentive to keep improving the game, and plenty of good servers for players. On the other hand, a great challenge for cheat authors and easy for bad players to find hacks. The reality is, it's going to be "cat-and-mouse" on pubs as long as they exist. We can only hope Valve develops the resources to keep up with them before they destroy the game for everyone. _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
