This is very substantial.  Understanding how the master server list
works has made it possible for GSPs to keep our high performance servers
full.  With the pseudo-random nature of the list now, the aggregate
quality of gameplay on pubs has been reduced.

This changing of the server list gets me worried.  Call me a conspiracy
theorist, but I think it opens the doors to corruption.

It would benefit the gaming community to put the list back the way it
was.

Dave

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Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 11:38 PM
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Subject: RE: [hlds] Not seeing CALIF servers

Well considering anyone I know and even people I don't know, they
generally have something called a FAVORITES LIST. Rarely do they like
playing on random servers (for the obvious reasons). Common sense tells
me a lot of people would wait for a full server list, make a favorites
list of low ping or 'different' servers, and be good for a long, long
time.

Either way, it's instantly sorted by ping automatically, so I don't
understand why having the "cable/dsl servers" shown first makes any
difference. People are going to wait for the right map, the right ping,
and the right player slots.

Too many people making this such a huge deal when it's nothing.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 8:06 PM
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Perhaps you should send out a memo on that then because I don't think
that's
going to change anyone's playing habits.


Jay

Jay Carter
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Turbo 6 Power Administrator

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Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 10:56 PM
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Good in my eyes because it makes people WAIT like they should to see a
full
list.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 09:41 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Not seeing CALIF servers


> How is it okay? It basically moves the people who colo servers to the
bottom
> of the list while moving cable and DSL servers to the top. How is that
okay?
> It punishes the people trying to provide the best gaming experience.
>
>
> Jay
>
> Jay Carter
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Turbo 6 Power Administrator
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 10:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Not seeing CALIF servers
>
> Requesting a new IP won't help you since it's different for almost
> everybody. It depends on the client's first IP octet.
>
> This is an OK solution that Valve has done. Since it takes out all
that
> bullshit with trying to get "good" IP addresses.
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