Well, instead of just whining about it with no conclusive proof of
anything, I demonstrate how apparently I have nothing to do at
midnight..

This excel spread sheet found at http://www.phxx.net/dl/analysis.xls
will demonstrate what, at first glance (that's all I've had), there is
some definite outliers or preferential IP octet (first) that score the
bulk of play. At the same time, some IP's simply don't appear to get
/any/ traffic.

Anything in baby blue is a EMPTY ip range. 41.xxx,
62.xxx,81.xxx,82.xxx,83.xxx,213.xxx,217.xxx for example are horrible
empty. With 3200+ servers (using default 27015 port), they have a 1%
fill rate!

Yet, ranges 41.xxx, 61.xxx, 128.xxx, 210.xx x,211.xxx with 200 servers
between these octets have upwards to 50% fill rate!

Even my own 300 servers have a fill rate of 17-24% based on our various
octets (I guess we are lucky).

Anyone is willing to do more review of this data. - It's not at all
inclusive in it's research ( I haven't traced geo data, etc) but it does
give us some numbers to work with.





Shane
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Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 7:24 PM
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<chuckle> I think we are going off topic, my fault - I apologize.  My
point wasn't so much redundancy as it was peering and level of peering
with other providers.


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Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 7:04 PM
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On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 06:46:58PM -0400, Shane Robinett wrote:
> I doubt that your single-hone bandwidth provider for your DSL provides
> the same quality of pipe people get at some quality carrier hotels and
> datacenters.

Well the "last mile" of my connectivity has a single point of failure,
but
the reality is that in the past 2 years, I've not had any network
outages.

My DSL is provided by Megapath Networks. One of the best quality DSL
providers
around.

I'd love to have triple redundant OC48 connections, but I don't have
that kind
of money, and I am not enamored with co-location.

>
> However.
>
> It sounds like in your one instance you have a quality box and you
> probably manage your server to the point it performs very well for the
> people that do get good pings to your DSL provider.
>
> In argument for the people who buy/manage servers off data center
> bandwidth, I think I can prove that 70%+ of all people /playing/ on a
> server are playing on datacenter bandwidth.  This is NOT the same
> statement as most servers are run off of datacenter bandwidth (I think
> the opposite is true, I'll try to prove the point. - maybe that will
> convince Valve to change their listings alg.)

Are you saying you'd have Valve bias the serverlist in favor of
datacenter
run servers?

--
Jim Norton - http://www.jimnorton.org

"The art of listening is indispensable for the right use of the mind.
It is also the most gracious, the most open and the most generous of
human habits."
(Attributed to R. Barr, St. John's College, Annapolis, MD)

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