"They have their own beta test teams that they work closely with."
Would you bet your life on that? I doubt they test anything, I mean how hard would it be to click on the server option in steam to see that its not set to what you last had it set to no matter what you do? Also if you have been involved with professional software development projects, you would be familiar with the concept of regression testing and change management. Seriously, does it ever appear that Valve even LOOK at the final results before inflicting their obviously untested and unreviewed code changes, or do the just stick the code in and hit "Release to STEAM" and hope for the best? On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:41:34 -0700, Ooks Server <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no such thing as a program without bugs. There is no such thing as > a system without bugs. We don't make bug free software, we make software > that has an acceptable level of defects. And yes, I have written large scale > software with an acceptable level of defects. > > Does Steam have an acceptable level of defects? I can't answer that as I > don't know what Valve's criteria is, nor do I know what development, > testing, and QA/QC methodologies they follow. One of the problems with Steam > is that we don't control it. Valve does, and Valve is not very good about > telling us about changes, nor is Valve very good about communicating with us > about problems with changes. They have their own beta test teams that they > work closely with. Most of us out here running servers are not important > enough for Valve to waste their time talking to us. > > For a while there we had Alfred talking with us a lot, but he seems to have > mostly dissappeared. Have you noticed that the more Valve reps post here, > the less whining and complaining there is? And when Valve reps stop talking > to us, the whining gets real bad? > > > > > > Hey everyone makes mistakes, and these people are only human. > > > > How about this, you try and code a program comparable to steam with out > any > > bugs before you start insulting them. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 3:28 AM > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Mix-Up - CS and Source > > > > > > > And Favourites is completely useless now as it mysteriously gets > > > setback to CS:S and then if you change it back to CS 1.6 they will > > > have all disappered! > > > > > > Does Valve actually test anything they do BEFORE they inflict it on the > > > public?? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
