ill shut off my server but there is now way all of use will ahve a
major impact. Lets all dos the other servers. Great idea!!!!!!!!!!


On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 18:53:37 -0400, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In my humble opinion Valve goofed majorly when the let Steam incorporate old
> WON keys.
> Input old WON key ... output a valid steam ID
> I am guessing this is how it was compromised.
>
> Throw away all your WON keys ... Soon they will have to start from scratch.
> Get out yer check books too.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Fencik
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
>
> Take it easy bud...this is not the end of steam.  It may have been hacked,
> but this is how security evolves.
>
> Too bad we couldn't get all of those old pro-WON guys on our side of the
> fence...maybe they could do some DoS attacks on the mirrors of this
> exploit...lol.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Spaulding
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 11:47 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
>
> LOL...but STEAM was going to be such an "improvement" to the gaming
> world...LOL
>
> I could use this opportunity to help, if I could, but Valve brought this
> about when WON seemed a valid option to begin with and broke the golden rule
> of "if it isn't broke don't fix it" as they've done so many times in the
> past. I don't remember us having these issues before. Now we have a site up
> and running on the internet that is EASY to track their hosting source and
> owner and nobody is doing a damn thing about it. Now THAT'S what I call
> efficiency of a software company. So many people of professional positions
> in this list and this has been allowed to continue. That site lists 100,000
> hits in one month. GG Valve.
>
> Is being cynical in this situation inappropriate? I'm not sure. Flame away
> if that's your prerogative but I didn't ask for this STEAM garbage, I never
> thought it was a good idea, I tested the full 10 months and was appalled to
> see it released to the public and then forced on all of us. But hey, what
> could we do but go with the flow. Now we have this out. WOW. I'll try to
> enjoy the game for the last few weeks before this is on a good portion of
> the kids playing STEAM before the roof falls in on Valve. But you know,
> really, you get what you deserve in the end and I think that maybe Valve
> deserved this kick in the ass to SHOW them that they can be wrong and
> fallible sometimes and that by ignoring the community that GIVES their
> customers a place to play is just plain STUPID! I've said it over a year ago
> and I'll say it again, I don't see Valve Software running not ONE server for
> their customers and never have. WE run those servers and now we have good
> reason not to anymore.
>
> For those of us running servers for the STEAM line of games...may God help
> us all....because we damn sure know that Valve won't be doing it any time
> soon. (Based on a long history of dumb decisions) /me makes a mental note to
> write down amount of servers running STEAM today and reference that number
> weekly to see how many people stop giving legitimate and these new
> illegitimate players a place to play.
>
> Ray S.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut"
> Andrews
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:49 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
>
> Heh, download is going slower than expected, you won't hear results for
> 12+ hours o.O
>
> Stupid 10k/sec downloads.  Though, I suppose that's a good thing in a way...
>
> -  Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut"
> Andrews
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:41 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [hlds] RE: VAC... and Steam keygens
>
> Okay, I have my theory, but I can't test it as the download link is a little
> odd.
>
> http://www.cs-nonsteam.tk/
>
> By visiting the site you get the main idea:
>
> "Non Steam:1 Steam: 0
> Written by Diesel Power
> Wednesday, 01 September 2004
> Now its possible to play Non Steam in Steam servers, visit forum section and
> go to tutorial section. Enjoy ;) tks to http://www.nonsteampowered.tk/ Last
> Updated ( Wednesday, 01 September 2004 )"
>
> Many mirrors:
> http://cs.rin.ru/download-cs16-non-steam-eng.html
> http://www.cheap.co.uk/download-counter-strike-1.6-non-steam---full-vers
> ion/
>
> Steam has been well and truly compromised now, assuming these claims are
> true (I will verify them and report back soon) - For now you will have to
> ban IP ranges or bans will be useless.
>
> I do hope someone at VALVe notices this, and I also hope the people on this
> list maintain maturity and do not abuse this program - it is illegal after
> all.
>
> -  Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews
>
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