If you have a way to simply reproduce this problem (i.e start a server,
have x people join, all type kill and you see the bug) then please send
it to me.

- Alfred

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lord Devil
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] There is a serious Logging Bug since BETA...

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> Addendum:
> Okay now I have confirmation that this bug is present on all types of
> server -> even linux (got some more info from linux users as well as
> log files - same problem there). This should make tracking it down
> much easier. We just can hope that VALVe will pays more attention to
> this problem! I know this may not be first priority for many of you,
> but as you see many sites are already starting with log parsing for
> their homepages as well as their TOP10 lists etc. and people finally
> begin asking hey why they have so many suicides, missed kilss etc.
> cant you fix it -> I always have to say the same, that till VALVe
> fixed the log messages we cant do anything...! Lets push this, I
> guess that this bug will not be hard to fix, it just needs to get
> recognized... Thanks in advance,
>
> LD
> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:22:44 +0200, Lord Devil wrote:
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> > Hello everyone!
> > I want to report a serious issue with the logging capabilities of
> > CS:Source. This bug exists since the BETA, I reported it many times
> > but it never got fixed. Now as there are coming more and more LOG
> > Parsers out I guess its time to do something against this bug. I
> > copy the description of this bug from the Forum Post I posted some
> > days ago:
> >
> >
> > Original post:
> >
http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=162488[1
> > [1] ]
> >
> > ----------------------
> >
> > Hello !
> >
> >
> > Many of you dont know it... but many people are already beginning
> > with some kind of stats logging. I just wanted to inform you, that
> > the current state of the cs:s dedicated server version does not
> > allow accurate log parsing ala PsychoStats, HLStats...!
> >
> >
> > The Log Output of CS:S sometimes misses connect lines as well as
> > entered the game lines. Well this wouldnt be much of a problem if
> > there were not the problem that sometimes KILLS get logged as
> > suicides! (Log_level 15 does not help!)
> >
> >
> > I got log files even from servers all over the world and tried it (I
> > guess this were all windows servers) and I could verify the missing
> > log lines.
> >
> >
> > You can also track when this happens. Just open the Server in VGUI
> > mode and look at the Players TAB -> You will see that sometimes
> > players are playing on the server but not showing up in this tab!
> > Exactly when this happens -> Everyone who kills a player not in this
> > players list get logged as being suicided!
> >
> >
> > I tested it with standard configs, log_levels, console mode, VGUI
> > mode, I got logs from different servers -> everywhere the same
> > problem! We really have to push this to valve so they will know it.
> > I reported this problem since the BETA but it always got ignored!
> >
> >
> > Kind regards and plz help us fix this,
> >
> > LD
> >
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> >
> >
> > The main problem with this bug is, that it gets ignored by most of
> > the people(thats why it gets rarely reported) -> I brought this up
> > on many forums but many people said no everything works fine,
> > because it doesnt happen all the time and not everyone is so nit-
> > picking as me. But when I told them they should believe me if they
> > dont they should give me me their log files and homepages so I can
> > give them some evidence -> I checked it for them and now they
> > believe me too. Missing kills, kills reported as suicides etc. <-
> > that are just the problems I can identify... In the forum post
> > above I already described when exactly the problem appears...
> >
> > So I really hope VALVe can fix those issue otherwise we will never
> > be able to do accurate stats logging. I guess its just one bug which
> > causes this behavriour, but we need to track it down and find it...
> >
> >
> > Thanks for listeningl,
> >
> > LD
> >
> > ===References:===
> > 1.
> >
http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=162488[2
> > ]
> >
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> ===References:===
>   1.
> http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=162488[1
>   2.
> http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=162488
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