Not to be a dick now, but the router that the original poster had
suggested runs around $100.

We're not talking about enterprise grade routers here.

So my call to you that routers that don't block unsolicited incomming
requests by default was valid because in the context of this entire
fucking "thread", commercial, off the shelf, sell'em at Radio Shack
routers are being discussed and all of them should and do.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but you are going out of your way to be
"right" when you're not in this case.


~Tony


On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:03:55 +1100, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I beg to differ
>
> It is only shitty routers that block incoming requests by default
>
> Real routers don't cost less than $1000, nor a sold at Radio Shack or
> Tandy and are generally are configured by people who know what they
> are doing and what they are talking about.
>
> Only in the retail/consumer sector do people get away with calling
> these devices "real routers" and anything else "shitty"
>
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:55:43 -0500, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Explain why you need to setup port forwarding on any router to run a
> > server behind it.
> >
> > Routers block all unsolicited incomming requests BY DEFAULT. Unless
> > it's some shitty router with a poor config. It acts as a firewall
> > protecting the internal network from outside traffic (this does NOT
> > mean though that any outgoing requests are blocked, those are NOT).
> >
> > Please read up before replying.
> >
> >
> > ~Tony
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:41:40 +1100, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Routers by default (If we are talking about what routers really are)
> > > DO NOT block anything in either direction, they route, its as simple
> > > as that.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:04:23 -0500, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 1. Linksys is a great brand in my opinion. I've yet to have a true
> > > > problem with their routers.
> > > > 2. Might as well pick up a WRT54G, even if you don't plan to go
> > > > wireless. The stuff that the new firmware can do over what the old
> > > > BEFSR41 can is worth the few extra bucks. Plus with the WRT, you have
> > > > the option of third party firmwares. Don't get the WRT54GS though. No
> > > > need for it and some special firmwares won't work on it.
> > > > 3. A router, by default, will block all unsolicited incomming
> > > > requests. Doesn't mean that you DON'T need a firewall, but your need
> > > > will be greatly reduced. If you want to control the traffic comming
> > > > out of your network, then yes, you'll still need a firewall.
> > > >
> > > > ~Tony
> > > >
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