> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> I didn't say XP was altered. XP is optmized that way via It's kernel, >> 2003 >> was optimized with a different set of parameters.
> > The source for this information? Or just speculation? > Microsoft and device driver engineers as well. >> I didn't say process priority although it does pertain to it. I stated >> Optimization, ergo memory support/threading support/network support. It >> is >> a know fact that you can recompile the *BSD/Linux Kernels to change the >> way the system prioritizes certain operations, ergo a customized Kernel. > > It is? Yes you an tweek a unix kernel to do purely a network IO role > or purely a user application role but that doesnt give one process more > priority over another and these are very specific cases. In general > if you look at an out the box install of Redhat for workstation and for > server they will be running the same kernel until enterprise edition stuff > that is. > Right regular redhat vs enterprise. Windows XP vs 2003. If you tweek it, you can give more priority to userland or kernel mode as well as network or file. >> As far as no benefit to a game server machine, if your running multiple >> gameservers on one box, you do benefit from the differences if your >> running them as a system service and having the server optimized for >> running background services, and using the system cache. And by your >> stating you don't run anything else, your missing the fact that your >> running a lot more than a gameserver, such as the Disk I/O >> Subsystem/Network I/O Subsystem among other things. > > You still havent give a reason why a game server run as service > runs "better"? > Does it run under a different part of the OS? > Nar! True, if your generalizing it. Each OS has it's own version. > Does it have a different sheduler? > Nar! True, if your generalizing it. Each OS has it's own version. > Does it run as a different priority? > Quite possibly but there's nothing to stop you doing this with > a foreground app. Yes it can. Why would you want it to use your Gui resources instead of running in the background not using any at all. > You cant magiclly make an application perform better simplely > by running it as a service. If this where true we would run > everything as services wouldnt we? No one said you could make it magically happen. Running something as a service depends many factors such as can it be ran without loading a gui and requiring no user interaction. >> SQL server does need huge memory support, and running multiple game >> servers you need it as well. > > If your game servers need multi GB's of memory I suggest > there's something wrong somewhere. > Thanks for the suggestion, but nothing is wrong when your running multiple processes that each require and avg of 100MB of memory. >> Actually, wether it uses the API's or not, Windows itself will use that >> model to optimize the processes it is running, including multiple >> gameservers. > > So an application can benifit from the existence of an API it > doesnt use directly or indirectly hmm perhaps not :P > It can, if it doesn't use it directly and a parent process that prioritizes the child process does. It can if it does use it directly as well. >> That is exactly my point, there is a benefit, but it is like comparing a >> good Nvidia card that costs 150 to the newest one that costs 400-500, >> what >> fits your need and how much will you benefit from it in the long run. >> Which is also why if your running 1 or 2 game servers, you really will >> not >> see a benefit, but if your running more, you will. > > No its like running a vi or a command prompt on your new > $500 GFX card thats got loads of bells and whistles for > doing 3D work but your text editor could well run better > on your old $150 card >e.g. compare a Matrox Millenium with a Geforce 6800 > you may well find the old "simple" millenium runs it quicker > or as near as dam it the same speed as none of your fancy > 3D features are ever used. > > Steve / K Does VI use 100+ mb of memory per instance and are you running 3 or 4 Vi's. at the same time that are reading and writing to the disk and over the network while doing geometrical 3D calculations and supporting multiple network connectios. 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